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    01. 28. 2010 01:07

SirAlden
Hello all, thanks for all the help and comments,
in my last post Best IJN AA Ship - 2010.

I would like to turn our attention to IJN Armor or Lack of same.
Read all the Forums, have gotten differing opinions - views.

This is how I would like to frame the question.

"IJN needs speed first and formost, do you ever Armor IJN,
and on what ship or ship type".

Added Until there is a 1 Knt LOSS of Speed:
1) 0.2 Belt to reduce Torp Damage
2) 0.5 Belt
3) Bulge to reduce Torp Damage
4) Bulkhead instead of Bulge to do what exactly?
Does it increase OVERHEAT TIME, or KEEP Sailors from
DYING, or helps with ship top speed after being damaged?
Strength of ship?
5) 0.2 Deck

I usually do 1) 0.2 and 3) Bulge
Some are arguing for 1) and 4)
Seen 1), 4), 5).

Thanks all.








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  • Re : Best IJN Armor - 2010

    02. 15. 2011 04:16

MESY
i use

0.2 - 0.3 belt on DD

1.0 belt + max bulge without losing knt on CV

on SY i put 0.2 belt + 1 bulge only

0.5 deck + 0.5 belt + 1 bulge + max bulk without losing knt on ebb3 (using 16" L first set)

about bluk space:
example

9.0 deck + bulk space on o project II ( 1 x triple 11" D) is better than 10.0 deck
Its actually 9.x verus 10.x you need to calibrate yourselves.
Gun set doesn't make sense but it will demostrate you the difference when your ship fight
with other bb3.

  • Re : Best IJN Armor - 2010

    06. 21. 2010 18:17

angus725
I still use 0.5 on most of my IJN BBs, and what ever bulge you can fit.

There was a test some time ago, and I remenber it was 0.5 that it was most effective
weight/damage reduction ratio or something.


I did this not too long ago, in SY with my setup I discribed above... (jollyroger_ is my
second account)...I survived.

  • Re : Best IJN Armor - 2010

    06. 21. 2010 14:25

As8s
Depending on what ship you run bulkhead is very helpfull. I tend to run with
enough so when I get down into the red I can still overheat and get away. My SY
can take a 40-50k Salvo and I can get out of the fight far enough away to rep back
up. Other day I had a 300k attack game and had taken 150k damage. Granted I
lose a knot of speed because of this but the benifit's of being able to get out and
rep far outwiegh the extra knot.

  • Re : Best IJN Armor - 2010

    06. 18. 2010 10:58

Pegleg85
For running a Sima in blitz, which is a lot of fun nowadays with Hobbit map, you want
max speed always so you add a bit of bulkhead armor to give you that extra chance to
OH.

  • Re : Best IJN Armor - 2010

    06. 18. 2010 08:16

shira
1) .3 Belt? or .2 Belt? Does IJN Benefit from .3 Belt?

0.2" Belt . Nothing diffrent with this 0.1" increase but weight .

2) 1 Bulkhead for Splash Damage - Yes or No?

No . Bulkhead do not help for splash damage .

3) (from .3 or .2 Belt UPTO) Belt .5 on BB's or is Bulge more important?

Bulge . IJN have best bulge , even few bulge before speed lose can be help to
absorb splash damege .

4) Deck .5 on BB's or is Bulge more important?

Bulge . IJN deck armor do not help you before you put 11" or more .

  • Re : Best IJN Armor - 2010

    06. 17. 2010 15:23

Ninjafroggie
What you should use:
0.0 deck (its useless)
0.2 belt (cuts torpedo damage by ~50%)
XXX bulge (fill up remaining tonnage with bulge until happy with speed vs. bulge)
5 Bulkhead (reduces chance of critical crew killing hits. Allows OH to be used when ship
is in more damaged condition and allows higher speed when hurt vs. not having bulk...this
5 bulk will save your life often. Its the difference between being able to pull off the
line and repair and being crippled and getting hit with the 2nd salvo)

Add the belt and bulk first, then fill bulge until you are happy with your top speed vs
your protection from torpedos.

  • Re : Best IJN Armor - 2010

    06. 17. 2010 12:21

SirAlden
Hello everyone,

Wanted to revisit this.

Keeping in mind that getting to Cap Speed Trumps All Armor.

1) .3 Belt? or .2 Belt? Does IJN Benefit from .3 Belt?

2) 1 Bulkhead for Splash Damage - Yes or No?

3) (from .3 or .2 Belt UPTO) Belt .5 on BB's or is Bulge more important?

4) Deck .5 on BB's or is Bulge more important?

Then Bulge until you lose a Knot of Speed?

Thanks all my IJN Friends. When you answer could you please use the 1) 2) 3) 4) Format?

  • Re : Best IJN Armor - 2010

    02. 02. 2010 12:11

aingeal
i gotta say I've seen duel going that close...even gunned down a L2 at 13 degree with a
bloody H44.

To my defense he was AW soooo I only started dealing damage hitting belt...that was funny
rushing a L2 and winning tough.

but yah, I,ve seen BB5 missing each other totally till in their 15- degree range.

  • Re : Best IJN Armor - 2010

    01. 30. 2010 21:56

angus725
only use 0.2-0.5 belt+bulge for IJN.

the belt works differently then deck somehow, as I've done testing...a monty cannot
oneshot a SY when it's in belt range...but you should never be that close anyways.

  • Re : Best IJN Armor - 2010

    01. 30. 2010 04:06

Filek
IJN armor is only usefull when u don't have good engys. Than put max bulge on CVs
or good amount of deck with some belt on BBs. BUT if u have good 1st enys giving u
more OH so then don't put any armor, only 0.3 or 0.5 belt/deck and some bulge
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