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    10. 20. 2005 12:11

thenooblord
ive spent weeks grinding in this very buggy game,tolerated endless crashing, trying to get a good ship and im like YAY MPRO.. but i got it and it sucks horribly.. koenigsberg way better. m pro has LESS gun space thatn kberg! WTF IS THAT??? all other nations cl2 has MORE gun space than the cl1.. (oOo its called logic),and unlike all other cl2 it still only has 3 support slots. why do ppl say its good ? in my opinion its the worst in the german line, and the german line has lots of crappy ships.

PS mpro slow as hell too and crappy fcs
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  • Re : m project

    10. 20. 2005 12:15

madal

obst
Without armor it is fast enough in combination with the range of the 6.75"sL to deal with most of the other CL...

  • Re : m project

    10. 20. 2005 21:43

zr2man
The Mpro only has 3 less gun space, but it has 25% more firepower than the Kberg and that makes a huge difference. It wasn't designed to use the 8" cannons. They have crappier range than the 6.75"sl anyway. The 8" cannons can be fun to use, but you are way better off with the 6.75"s. Trust me the Mpro is way better than the K. Just stick with it. You will learn to keep your distance and pound enemy ships from max range. I never ran into a K berg with my Mpro that actually gave me a whole lot of trouble. Even a kberg mounted with 8"s is not that good. The Mpro will out range them (with 6.75")and you will have a way better reload. I didn't grind 11 levels in the mpro for nothing. It is an excellent ship. In the right hands it will pawn all other CLs. Its weakness is crappy gun damage and basically no protection. Those can be over come somewhat with range and speed, and also a good aim.

  • Re : m project

    10. 20. 2005 21:09

sekandre
My advice to you:

Quit complaining, and start figuring out a strategy that does work.

Seriously, I have seen many successful mproers, and none of them complain about their ship.

Instead, the enjoy it immensely. Why? Because they are smart, and know how to work things to their advantage.

  • Re : m project

    10. 20. 2005 20:02

thenooblord
bump

  • Re : m project

    10. 20. 2005 15:27

thenooblord
but the mpro is higher level than kberg with bigger and heavier guns. mogami has more space than agano so why not the same with mpro and kberg?, u ppl make me want to quit this game

  • Re : m project

    10. 20. 2005 15:14

obst
It's a tradeoff, similar to the Sirius gaining a gunmount while losing gunspace, or the Cleveland having less gunmounts than the Brooky but more gunspace.

  • Re : m project

    10. 20. 2005 15:11

thenooblord
The main point i was making in this thread was :Why does mpro have less gun space than kberg? it makes no sense all other cl2s have MORE space than the cl1.

  • Re : m project

    10. 20. 2005 14:46

obst
With level 46 gunners you should have a good spread and reload time with 6.75"sL.

Just don't use armor and use your speed, you can even escape when you accidentilly got into someone's range. At CL stage you getting into the enemy range does not mean instant death compared to the BB stage so you should get more used to running....

  • Re : m project

    10. 20. 2005 14:43

thenooblord
my gunners are lvl 46 and id like to know why it has less gun space than kberg. thats my main concern. i can only fit 2 binds of ammo with the dual 8.. on the k i can fit 3

  • Re : m project

    10. 20. 2005 13:46

zr2man
Mpro doesn't come into its own until you have the level 39 6.75"sl cannons. They will outrange any other CL and they will make you be able to shoot at CAs without getting to close. They tend to be on the weak side but with high level gunner (45+) they can be very effective. Before I switched to my Hipper I had a very tight spread with those cannons and my reload time was like 3.5 seconds. I was easily able to do 20k attack in CL games.


Now in my Hipper my spread sucks, so it starts all over again. Of course hitting someone with 2 8" shells is the same as hitting them with 4 6.75" shells.

  • Re : m project

    10. 20. 2005 13:22

shrike
"and unlike all other cl2 it still only has 3 support slots"

This is completely untrue. Light cruisers have 3 support slots. British ships have one extra as part of their national advantages. So British light cruisers get 4. US, German, and Japanese light cruisers all have 3.
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