well i have to agree on this SS1 in blitz would work maybe not every ff and dd will have
dcs or hh on but most of them will have torps and yo have to think the majority of the
players are DDs meaning the subs will be spotted most of the time.
also cvs and bbs are the battle horses of blitzes most of them know they will die but not
before devastating cas,cls,dds,and ffs. subs would make these higher level players have
fears and would cause them to be able to have a quick death.
but yet subs would be very killable by any tw or ship with torps or any1 who decides to
throw hh or dcs on
reccd

"GB is hardly played now, so GB2 is. This mode is highly unsuited for SS1 as the
point is to guard the Flag, and you getting through all the BB and defense is harder"

Just do what i did during my ss1 grind... Play defense.

What i did was follow my flag if it is a BB or go to the BB line that the cv covered.
Then i waited for a sub to dive. When it dived, i went out in fron of my BB line, dived,
and crash dived. When it got close to me, i'd pop up, launch my 3 torps (km ss1 FTL)
and then crash dive again for a couple of seconds while his torps went over me. If
this didnt kill him, then it would always cripple him. It works very well :)

reccomend

-A DD and CL dont need HH, they do fine with Depth Charges. Also SS1 is not that
maneuverable considering that most don't have Back torpedo launchers.
- Overheat on DD,Cl does not really matter anymore as there is a ton of other DD and CL
that can sonar them for you if your overheating your engine.
- If SS killed 2 DD in 1 torpedo then those DD are plainly stupid to stick too close
together, and an SS1 torpedo splash dmg are not that great really.
-It will give SS1 a chance to get to SS2 and actually make a difference in GB2.
- since Blitz is a DD ,Cl,CA, CV 1 2 3 room, SS1 have many threats, Depth
Charges,Torpedoes, CL or CA with HH and CV Torpedo bombers.


I level my DD crews in Gb2 by just hunting SS and i do fine, sometimes i get sunk
sometimes i trick the SS and i sink them.

aaaand the debate starts again.

There's no point asking and there's not even any point in shooting down the idea...the
idea will not be seriously considered at this time.

No, because
- your single torp can cripple multiple DDs on splash damage.
- CA class will be more "obsolete" (now they must fight againist CVs and BBs)
- most DD, FF, CL cannot fit HH launchers on T-slots
-this quite unfair for small ships. You as SS1 level up whole crew and surface vessels
must train extra crew for HH,DC launchers + sonarman for CLs.

The Simple answer (minus the inevitable flame if an idiot responds) is that "people" and
"sources within NF" are adamantly steadfast in their belief that SS1 within Blitzes would
completely throw the balance of those battles.

I know, I know.... arguments and counter arguments have been on the forum many many times
and a lot of people have raised the points you raised. Nontheless, "people" and "sources
within NF" remain rooted to this belief.

To be fair, I am sure that the inclusion of SS1's would be problematic in some (possibly
unimagined) way.