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Stop adding content and fix the current problems
03. 21. 2011 16:14

Remenents	I have saw this in posts all over the forums and thought I would add it here as well. Please, stop adding content and fix the overwhelming issues NF already has. I can think of tons of bugs and glitches that have plagued NF since its launch, and still nothing has been done about them. Instead, more and more content is added... and most of the time, the content hasnt been tested properly. For example, take the SN nation that was added. The sprites have all kinds of issues and all SDE does is give us a way to manually patch to fix it or tells us to uninstall and reinstall the game. I say, to hell with that. SDE caused these issues with piss poor testing and coding, I say they need to fix it in the patch. As to uninstalling the game, if I do this, I damn sure will not reinstall it... at least not until all the problems are fixed or at least ADDRESSED by a REAL SDE person, not some forum mod or the like. If anyone knows any bugs, just post them here and a bit of information on it and then reccomend this thread... though I fear anything will ever be done about it... I will start: Zoom Bug: This bug has been around since its launch. There are different ways this bug can come about, but the way I usually see it happen is minimizing the game during its loading. - FIXED - SN Gun Sprites: This glitch shows some of the SN ships with no guns, when in fact they have weapons. I for one have tried this "manual fix" with no effect whatsoever. Reinstalling the game is just a stupid way to fix a problem that can be solved with a simple patch. - FIXED - Lagginess: Many will agree this is caused from Hackshield, and I will agree. If we must deal with Hackshield in order to play, thats fine, but at least fix it so it isnt SO laggy and people crash left and right. Battleroom Bugs: I have noticed, as of lately, many rooms get bugged. There max players they can have is 64, but they will have 65 or 66 players, effectively bugging the room and not allowing the host to split and go. This, I belive, is just MORE poor coding and should be an easy fix. Post all the bugs you know of and what they do and try not to post duplicate bugs unless you have more information on a particular one. Thanks all. EDIT: ALL NEW BUGS POSTED FROM OTHERS OR NOTICED FROM MYSELF WILL BE POSTED BELOW HERE. Red Planes Glitch: Sometimes when planes are launched, they are red, like they are out of fuel. Doesnt cause problems really, just annoying to see. Adding/Removing Sailors from ship: Sometimes its shows sailors loaded/unloaded but they havent. They are really still on ship or in shipyard. Sailors not getting exp, even Prem: Now and again, particularly when remodeling a ship, sailors NOT on the ship will not get exp unless you remove them and replace them back on the ship after the remodel.

Remenents

I have saw this in posts all over the forums and thought I would add it here as well.

Please, stop adding content and fix the overwhelming issues NF already has. I can
think of tons of bugs and glitches that have plagued NF since its launch, and still
nothing has been done about them. Instead, more and more content is added... and
most of the time, the content hasnt been tested properly. For example, take the SN
nation that was added. The sprites have all kinds of issues and all SDE does is give
us a way to manually patch to fix it or tells us to uninstall and reinstall the game. I
say, to hell with that. SDE caused these issues with piss poor testing and coding, I
say they need to fix it in the patch. As to uninstalling the game, if I do this, I damn
sure will not reinstall it... at least not until all the problems are fixed or at least
ADDRESSED by a REAL SDE person, not some forum mod or the like.

If anyone knows any bugs, just post them here and a bit of information on it and
then reccomend this thread... though I fear anything will ever be done about it... I
will start:

Zoom Bug: This bug has been around since its launch. There are different ways this
bug can come about, but the way I usually see it happen is minimizing the game
during its loading.

- FIXED - SN Gun Sprites: This glitch shows some of the SN ships with no guns, when
in fact they have weapons. I for one have tried this "manual fix" with no effect
whatsoever. Reinstalling the game is just a stupid way to fix a problem that can be
solved with a simple patch. - FIXED -

Lagginess: Many will agree this is caused from Hackshield, and I will agree. If we
must deal with Hackshield in order to play, thats fine, but at least fix it so it isnt SO
laggy and people crash left and right.

Battleroom Bugs: I have noticed, as of lately, many rooms get bugged. There max
players they can have is 64, but they will have 65 or 66 players, effectively bugging
the room and not allowing the host to split and go. This, I belive, is just MORE poor
coding and should be an easy fix.

Post all the bugs you know of and what they do and try not to post duplicate bugs
unless you have more information on a particular one.

Thanks all.

EDIT: ALL NEW BUGS POSTED FROM OTHERS OR NOTICED FROM MYSELF WILL BE
POSTED BELOW HERE.

Red Planes Glitch: Sometimes when planes are launched, they are red, like they are
out of fuel. Doesnt cause problems really, just annoying to see.

Adding/Removing Sailors from ship: Sometimes its shows sailors loaded/unloaded
but they havent. They are really still on ship or in shipyard.

Sailors not getting exp, even Prem: Now and again, particularly when remodeling a
ship, sailors NOT on the ship will not get exp unless you remove them and replace
them back on the ship after the remodel.

Re : Stop adding content and fix the current problems
03. 22. 2011 07:52

koala44202	K recced. I don't think it's completely HS. The game lagged a lot before it. For me, HS made the game barely noticeably worse. Just asking here, where is the server at? I want to do a speed test.

Re : Stop adding content and fix the current problems
03. 22. 2011 03:41

Remenents	Ok, awesome. Ya... let me use the search function and find a thread that is 20 years old with people that dont play anymore and (like the MOD said) Devs that are not there anymore. I know how to use the search function, and I did. I didnt use that thread because of how old it is. I have saw threads locked due to "the age of the thread", so why am I going to waste my time on someone elses old thread and have it locked when I can just post a new one to revive it? Besides, like I said, all this is basically a waste of time anyway. My lag, and every other players out there, is based off of HS. Before HS was implmented = no lag. After HS was implemented = nothing but lag. Not trying to be rude here, but dont try to tell me what is causing my lag. I am pretty sure I know my computer and how it operates and what woukd/shoud/is/does cause my lag. Also, please spare me excuses about devs leaving and new ones starting over. You said it yourself, these issues have been posted before... YEARS ago for the most part... and not a thing has been done to fix them. So these have been known about, SDE just doesnt care and doesnt read the forums. So again, like I said, this is basically a waste of time, but needs to be put out there for players to voice themselves and to vent. Good call on Harbor sprites. That again is something SDE would have us fix ourselves with that manual patch, and again, I say phooy to that. They broke it, they should fix it.

Remenents

Ok, awesome. Ya... let me use the search function and find a thread that is 20 years
old with people that dont play anymore and (like the MOD said) Devs that are not
there anymore. I know how to use the search function, and I did. I didnt use that
thread because of how old it is. I have saw threads locked due to "the age of the
thread", so why am I going to waste my time on someone elses old thread and have
it locked when I can just post a new one to revive it? Besides, like I said, all this is
basically a waste of time anyway.

My lag, and every other players out there, is based off of HS. Before HS was
implmented = no lag. After HS was implemented = nothing but lag. Not trying to be
rude here, but dont try to tell me what is causing my lag. I am pretty sure I know my
computer and how it operates and what woukd/shoud/is/does cause my lag. Also,
please spare me excuses about devs leaving and new ones starting over. You said it
yourself, these issues have been posted before... YEARS ago for the most part... and
not a thing has been done to fix them. So these have been known about, SDE just
doesnt care and doesnt read the forums. So again, like I said, this is basically a
waste of time, but needs to be put out there for players to voice themselves and to
vent.

Good call on Harbor sprites. That again is something SDE would have us fix
ourselves with that manual patch, and again, I say phooy to that. They broke it,
they should fix it.

Re : Stop adding content and fix the current problems
03. 22. 2011 02:38

Baker654	how about fix the ship sprites in the harbour so that weapons on the t slot dont cover the ship harbour model

Re : Stop adding content and fix the current problems
03. 22. 2011 01:04

frfghtr560	The problem with trying to fix the current code is that the original devs left and the new ones are trying to get it figured out and fix what they can. That is why some of the old bugs still exist.

Re : Stop adding content and fix the current problems
03. 22. 2011 00:24

Hoplita	Atleast he tries it, there is nothing more true then he wrote here, code = code code can be even optimized our fixed. Even if it won't get far still recced for you, there still some people around that do care. Hoplita

Re : Stop adding content and fix the current problems
03. 21. 2011 23:49

frfghtr560	Lag has more to do with then just HS and navyfield. Before you can jump to conclusions about HS being the problem with lag, do a check to see what your latency is and then go from there. You may not be having a problem with another online game with lag, but you also have to think, it is routed differently and it is held by a completely different server and location for that server. People always want to blame the first thing that is different for a cause for their problems without looking into what could cause the problem actually is. I'm not saying HS doesn't share a part of the responsibility for the lag but it is not the cause. Secondly, there are other threads that already suggest to fix the bugs in the game before new content is added. The only thing that I can see is a new suggestion is teh SN Gun Sprite suggestion.

frfghtr560

Lag has more to do with then just HS and navyfield. Before you can jump to conclusions
about HS being the problem with lag, do a check to see what your latency is and then go
from there. You may not be having a problem with another online game with lag, but you
also have to think, it is routed differently and it is held by a completely different
server and location for that server. People always want to blame the first thing that is
different for a cause for their problems without looking into what could cause the problem
actually is. I'm not saying HS doesn't share a part of the responsibility for the lag but
it is not the cause.

Secondly, there are other threads that already suggest to fix the bugs in the game before
new content is added. The only thing that I can see is a new suggestion is teh SN Gun
Sprite suggestion.

Re : Stop adding content and fix the current problems
03. 21. 2011 19:21

a3001	join the test server and use the search button!

Re : Stop adding content and fix the current problems
03. 21. 2011 19:13

Remenents	"dude really? good luck with that even if you get 1000 recs" Yes, thank you Devildog8 for that marvelous insight... if you actually read my post instead of just trying to be a weenie, you will see I say " ...though I fear anything will ever be done about it..." meaning I know this is pointless, but Im still going to do it.

Re : Stop adding content and fix the current problems
03. 21. 2011 17:10

koala44202	Zoom Bug: Might be hard to find in code because theres so many ways for it to happen. SN Gun Sprites: Yes SDE really needs to fix it. VERY stupid they didn't fix last week. Lagginess: Outdated code. They need to release a new one. Hackshield. Yes, it causes lag. No, they won't get rid of it. They already spent enough of our money on it. Battleroom Bugs: Seems to me it would be VERY difficult. How can you prevent it when 2-3 people join the SAME room at the SAME time. Probably also hard because of outdated code. Rec tomorrow. Already used mine for the day.

koala44202

Zoom Bug:
Might be hard to find in code because theres so many ways for it to happen.

SN Gun Sprites:
Yes SDE really needs to fix it. VERY stupid they didn't fix last week.

Lagginess:
Outdated code. They need to release a new one.
Hackshield. Yes, it causes lag. No, they won't get rid of it. They already spent enough
of our money on it.

Battleroom Bugs:
Seems to me it would be VERY difficult. How can you prevent it when 2-3 people join
the SAME room at the SAME time. Probably also hard because of outdated code.

Rec tomorrow. Already used mine for the day.

Re : Stop adding content and fix the current problems
03. 21. 2011 16:43

devildog8	dude really? good luck with that even if you get 1000 recs

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Re : Stop adding content and fix the current problems 03. 21. 2011 16:43