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  • Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.21 - Revised with new content.

    02. 14. 2006 13:48

PCShogun
Hear the wisdom of PCSHOGUN
Dodging a torpedo spread is literally, a dance with death. You better know how to
dance or you will surely suffer great damage.

Torpedoes are the single, most deadly weapon in the game (with the exception
perhaps of Dive bombers). While a Battleships main gun can cause 1000 - 3000
damage in a hit, a single IJN torpedo can sink a destroyer. Different nations have
different qualities to their torps but I will speak generally in this guide.

Combing the row:
Torpedoes will leave their launcher in a cone and begin to fan out immediately after
launch. The further you are from the launching ship, the more distance between the
torps there will be, especially if the launcher has been set to WIDE instead of
NARROW when fired. If the distance is far enough, you can sail between them, or
comb them. Unless you are unlucky enough to be close when they detonate due to
range limit, you will emerge unscathed.

Outrun them:
If torps are heading for you broadside, you may be able to run past them using
overheat, thats what it is for. Hold the F key down and run like a bunny to get
around the cone of death. If you realize your not gonna make it, see the next few
sections for more help. I have seen many folks just keep on sailing and get
whammed by 4 torps. Take evasive action, captain!

Hit the wall:
If you don't think you can outrun the cone. Stop the boat! Press the V key and come
to a halt as fast as possible. If its gonna be close, press and hold V when your
speed is zero and go into reverse to get a little more distance. This WILL leave you
vulnerable to any enemy ships in the area as a sitting ship is a sitting duck for other
torps or volly's. Use this wisely.

Shake your aft:
Torpedoes are not guided, your ship is. If a torp is on a collision course with you, it is
not gonna miss unless you do some creative driving. The exception are sub torps which will
sometimes miss. If it looks like the torps are gonna hit the back end (aft) of your ship,
try turning in the direction the torps came from to get the back half of your ship outta
the way. by turning into the torps, you will be moving your aft end away from the torps
giving you a precious second to get your butt out of the way. Even if you are hit, you
would have had to suck up three or four, now only 1 will hit, perhaps none.

Take one for the team:
Sometimes, the enemy shooter is just too good or lucky for you to avoid his torp shot. In
this case your best bet is to turn into the torps to reduce the number of hits. A head on
shot does less damage than a broadside hit. You may even get lucky if he has fired close
to you. Torps have a minimum arming distance, turning into the spread
can reduce the range enough to make the torps hit without exploding, this is a TW's
worst nightmare. This will NOT work for most airdropped torps as their minimum
range is 1/3 that of a ship launched torpedo. Ever wonder why? A torpedo exploding
close to your ship will do as much, if not more damage, than a direct hit sometimes
will do. Planes, being out of the water (hopefully) do not have this problem.

De Plane! De Plane!
When enemy aircraft are approaching you near the water, they are most likely torpedo
planes. Air dropped torpedoes are faster and have a much shorter arming range than ship
launched torps. When you see the planes coming, try to turn your bow or stern towards the
approaching flight. Keep zig zagging, not too fast, to force the planes to re-align their
approach to you. If they cannot line you up, they may make a bad drop which means he will
miss. The pilot may also be forced to wait longer to drop meaning you may shoot some down,
or he will abort and come around to try again giving you more time to shoot them down or
take some other action.

Submarines.
Death from below. Able to sink a BB with only a few hits. They are vulnerable though. So
how do you avoid these killing machines, you ask? You cannot detect a sub if you are using
overheat. You cannot detect a sub if you do not have a sonarman on board. You can,
however, see them if someone else can see them. KNowing where they are is critical to
avoiding them and later killing them.

Subs are not very fast and they do not maneuver well . Keep a sub from pointing his bow at
you and he cannot fire. Subs can only fire forward, in a very narrow arc. Some CAN shoot
out the stern so be warned. To avoid danger come at them from the side and hug him. He
cannot stay down forever due to lack of air. When he surfaces, nail him. If he does fire,
use the above rules to avoid the hit. Be aware that subs torps have BIG warheads and will
cause considerable damage even if it explodes nearby. Use your own torpedoes to hit a
submerged sub, or to force him deep, which will cause him more damage the longer he stays
down. When he pops back up, kill him.

Submarines have a special ability to DEEP DIVE which allows torpedoes to pass over them.
However, subs cannot move when in deep dive and will take damage while they remain in a
deep dive state. Deep Dive is also limited to the amount of air remaining on board.

I know much of this is common sense but I watch a lot of you playing and as you die,
find myself wondering, "What was he thinking?". So, common sense or not, here is
my guide to the fine art of torp dodging. Hope it helps.


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  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    10. 24. 2006 09:43

PCShogun
960 Viewers and only 18 people hit the Recommend button? Come on people, Nothing is free
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  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    10. 23. 2006 10:46

Gangrel
sometimes it sux to being dueling with a CL or CA (funny to see, a Q class broadside
dueling a Pensacola and winning) and eat a torp wave that ur BO don't see...


one correction: if the torper is smat enough he can use his torps in his reload time, so u
cant notice he is going to do that (i did it myself several times and it always worked,
that way i can take dow CV's and escorts)

and one last suggestion: if u hate torps just put as much bulge u can (i did it in my
Dido, 57 bulge feels nice)

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    10. 23. 2006 09:39

PCShogun
Glad it helped so many. Again, most of this is common sense but I still see people doing
stuff this guide warns about. My guess is that you really do not see the one that gets you.

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    10. 17. 2006 07:06

Firedtm
this is one of the best Guide thats help me so far

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    10. 17. 2006 07:03

Scana
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-nice guide ... but turning into them wont work every time, cause,
-as u said some jap -torps
-can sink a dd(even cl) with a single hit since they do like 18k damage each ...
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The 18k Torpedos can go at max 36kn fast with a short Range, well if you can't outrun or
dodge them in a DD or CL, well then you really must suck.

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    10. 17. 2006 05:35

PCShogun
Every so often I drag this up from the depths for the new players to read.

In answer to the last question:
Yes, some IJN torps can sink a DD in one hit. The object is that in a head on
situation, a torp is more likely to miss, but not always, and it is always better to be
hit by one torp rather than 2 or 3 which is what a broadside presentation is going
to do.

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    08. 22. 2006 10:55

ErichTopp
nice guide ... but turning into them wont work every time, cause, as u said some jap torps
can sink a dd(even cl) with a single hit since they do like 18k damage each ...

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    08. 12. 2006 05:18

HiveTyrant
best way to dodge torps is too go in between em or try out in a fubuki or have a
fast ship that can dodge em

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    08. 11. 2006 11:21

darksentry
this is an awasome guide for torp dodgeing, thanx! Recomeneded!

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    08. 11. 2006 09:38

FoeHammer
Two things to add to other peoples comments:
The wake of a torp has NOTHING to do with it's range. The Jap type 93 torps ALL
have short wakes but the range varies from 6000 to 40000. Wake length also has
nothing to do with speed. The only indication of anything that a wake tells you is
that a short wake torp coming from a Jap ship does MAJOR damage.

The "Torpedoes in sight" message is for enemy torps ONLY. Your BO will never
shout out that friendly torps are sighted (hence so many torp TKs in game). If the
torps have been sighted by someone else on your team your BO does not say
anything. The "Torpedo in sight" message is if your BO "dicovers" torps from the
enemy that no one else on your team has spotted yet. YOU ALWAYS LOOK FOR
TORPS WHEN YOUR BO WARNS YOU. You just never know.

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