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  • Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.21 - Revised with new content.

    02. 14. 2006 13:48

PCShogun
Hear the wisdom of PCSHOGUN
Dodging a torpedo spread is literally, a dance with death. You better know how to
dance or you will surely suffer great damage.

Torpedoes are the single, most deadly weapon in the game (with the exception
perhaps of Dive bombers). While a Battleships main gun can cause 1000 - 3000
damage in a hit, a single IJN torpedo can sink a destroyer. Different nations have
different qualities to their torps but I will speak generally in this guide.

Combing the row:
Torpedoes will leave their launcher in a cone and begin to fan out immediately after
launch. The further you are from the launching ship, the more distance between the
torps there will be, especially if the launcher has been set to WIDE instead of
NARROW when fired. If the distance is far enough, you can sail between them, or
comb them. Unless you are unlucky enough to be close when they detonate due to
range limit, you will emerge unscathed.

Outrun them:
If torps are heading for you broadside, you may be able to run past them using
overheat, thats what it is for. Hold the F key down and run like a bunny to get
around the cone of death. If you realize your not gonna make it, see the next few
sections for more help. I have seen many folks just keep on sailing and get
whammed by 4 torps. Take evasive action, captain!

Hit the wall:
If you don't think you can outrun the cone. Stop the boat! Press the V key and come
to a halt as fast as possible. If its gonna be close, press and hold V when your
speed is zero and go into reverse to get a little more distance. This WILL leave you
vulnerable to any enemy ships in the area as a sitting ship is a sitting duck for other
torps or volly's. Use this wisely.

Shake your aft:
Torpedoes are not guided, your ship is. If a torp is on a collision course with you, it is
not gonna miss unless you do some creative driving. The exception are sub torps which will
sometimes miss. If it looks like the torps are gonna hit the back end (aft) of your ship,
try turning in the direction the torps came from to get the back half of your ship outta
the way. by turning into the torps, you will be moving your aft end away from the torps
giving you a precious second to get your butt out of the way. Even if you are hit, you
would have had to suck up three or four, now only 1 will hit, perhaps none.

Take one for the team:
Sometimes, the enemy shooter is just too good or lucky for you to avoid his torp shot. In
this case your best bet is to turn into the torps to reduce the number of hits. A head on
shot does less damage than a broadside hit. You may even get lucky if he has fired close
to you. Torps have a minimum arming distance, turning into the spread
can reduce the range enough to make the torps hit without exploding, this is a TW's
worst nightmare. This will NOT work for most airdropped torps as their minimum
range is 1/3 that of a ship launched torpedo. Ever wonder why? A torpedo exploding
close to your ship will do as much, if not more damage, than a direct hit sometimes
will do. Planes, being out of the water (hopefully) do not have this problem.

De Plane! De Plane!
When enemy aircraft are approaching you near the water, they are most likely torpedo
planes. Air dropped torpedoes are faster and have a much shorter arming range than ship
launched torps. When you see the planes coming, try to turn your bow or stern towards the
approaching flight. Keep zig zagging, not too fast, to force the planes to re-align their
approach to you. If they cannot line you up, they may make a bad drop which means he will
miss. The pilot may also be forced to wait longer to drop meaning you may shoot some down,
or he will abort and come around to try again giving you more time to shoot them down or
take some other action.

Submarines.
Death from below. Able to sink a BB with only a few hits. They are vulnerable though. So
how do you avoid these killing machines, you ask? You cannot detect a sub if you are using
overheat. You cannot detect a sub if you do not have a sonarman on board. You can,
however, see them if someone else can see them. KNowing where they are is critical to
avoiding them and later killing them.

Subs are not very fast and they do not maneuver well . Keep a sub from pointing his bow at
you and he cannot fire. Subs can only fire forward, in a very narrow arc. Some CAN shoot
out the stern so be warned. To avoid danger come at them from the side and hug him. He
cannot stay down forever due to lack of air. When he surfaces, nail him. If he does fire,
use the above rules to avoid the hit. Be aware that subs torps have BIG warheads and will
cause considerable damage even if it explodes nearby. Use your own torpedoes to hit a
submerged sub, or to force him deep, which will cause him more damage the longer he stays
down. When he pops back up, kill him.

Submarines have a special ability to DEEP DIVE which allows torpedoes to pass over them.
However, subs cannot move when in deep dive and will take damage while they remain in a
deep dive state. Deep Dive is also limited to the amount of air remaining on board.

I know much of this is common sense but I watch a lot of you playing and as you die,
find myself wondering, "What was he thinking?". So, common sense or not, here is
my guide to the fine art of torp dodging. Hope it helps.


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  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    08. 11. 2006 08:39

Harbatkin
Another good tip; if the TW is sniffing around, listen for the tell tale splash sound
when he drops his torps. Then put the hammer down and turn away.

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    05. 12. 2006 09:32

Menace1
somehow, with no bulge, my NO was able to live after taking 4 torps from a jap tw cl.
amazing. it only took one to put my z1 out of action the game befor, just barely alive but
nothing to do but sit ther.

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    05. 10. 2006 13:14

NWHDarkWolf
I like this, so I'm gonna bump it and add a recommendation here as well.

For those of you with trackball mice, like me, we don't get the lovely scroll wheel for
zoom out. However, the bracket keys are your best friends. Hit F11 and then those
brackets to zoom in and out. Works like a charm. ;) And if you don't know where
those two keys are.... They are on the right, next to the p. :)

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    05. 07. 2006 18:13

Madcap
Hmmmmmmmmm sail... I'll have to try that...

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    05. 07. 2006 16:25

firecow
I would like to add a couple of points to this...

If you seen a DD or even CL closing at a broadside angle and they are not firing
guns at you then turn way and lay on the overdrive because often they are setting
up a torp shot.

Second, If I see a sima/fubu/kita/kuma I just turn and run the other way. They can
hurt me (most of the time) without torps so I can take some pot shots and they are
left chasing me.

Finally, look out for Oyos and their torps. In CV hunts they often fire torp wall up the
middle that many newbie DDs succomb to. In AW or GB2 games they often wait till
DD is close and then fire torps while they try to escape.

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    04. 25. 2006 06:50

PCShogun
Bump so new players can find this.

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death V1.1 - revised

    04. 21. 2006 11:29

PCShogun
Version 1.1

Spelling and grammer corrections along with some clarification in the 'Shake your Aft'
section.

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death

    04. 17. 2006 21:38

Menace1
after a recent mod to my NO, i can now outrun kita torps. my NO now sports a ca1 engine,
has only .2' less of deck armor, and does 26/39.

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death

    04. 17. 2006 09:20

PCShogun
Thanks for the support on this forum.

I do have to disagree with JayLeeW's comment though
"If the torp leaves a short trail, it is a longer range torp"

I use the Type 8 Jap torpedo and it leave a long wake slow or fast speed setting.
Not sure if the wake is determined by electric or steam propulsion in this game.

  • Re : Torpedo dodging, Dance with Death

    04. 11. 2006 10:10

XB70
nice guide, now iff only we could get a guide to torping, or mabey there is one and i
just havent seen it yet lol
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