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  • Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 22. 2010 16:14

Rengokuy
Suggestion : Add a Second purchasable ship, classed as a Premium Light Cruiser. The ship
is a Monitor. Level Req should be higher than current PCL, and a special FCS should come
with them that allows for Battleship level of control.


Qualities of the Monitor


Large Displacement
Able to use Battleship Caliber Gun
Able to use Heavier Crew
Able to be armored better
Small Hull
All Foreward main armament in a single turret


Little or No Secondary Battery
Slow speeds


Ships to be Added

(listed with pure historic specs, in game they would all be faster, with more disp)

(reviews are to give an idea how all would interact with one another, this may be
different depending on how SDE would balance them)

UK - Roberts Class 8500t 12 knots
2 - 15in, 8 - 4in


Roberts will be to the Monitors as Moltke is the the PCA. Namely, very good, if not the
best. She will have a secondary armament. However, like the Furious and Tiger, Roberts
will be considerably larger than the other nations premium ships, thus losing the
advantage of a small hit box.

USN - Arkansas Class (later Cheyenne) 3,225t 12knots
2 - 12in, 3 - 4in, 1 - 3in


A better than average ship. She has a slighly above average armament with a slighly below
average hitbox. A small secondary battery helps ensure her overall satisfactory rating.

IJN - Matsushima Class 4200t 16.5 knots
1 - 12.5in, 12 4.7in


The fastest speed and heaviest secondary battery allow the Matsushima (IRL classed an
armored cruiser), so overcome her massive hitbox and comparativly weaker main.


KM - Wespe Class - 1139t 4knots
1 - 12in


What Wespe lacks in speed and armament, she greatly makes up for with being one of the
hardest ships to hit in NF. Virtually no superstructure and a length of 152m (a little
bit bigger than a destroyer) set low in the water means deck hits are a must.

MN - Tonnerre Class - 5700t 13 Knots
2 - 10.8in


Small and powerful with above average speed and displacement, as well as a twin turret.
She will face some problems thanks to her tall superstructure, she will however boast one
of the most unique firing arc's in game, as the turret is actually set starboard and
superstructure to port, giving her a nearly 300 degree firing arc, including directly aft.


RM - Faa Di Bruno (GM 194) 3 Knots
2 - 15in, 4 - 4in


She has the best Hitbox to Offense ratio, as she lacks virtually any superstructure.
Couple this with her large turret and secondary mounts, she would be in a close race with
Roberts for best monitor.

SU - Novgorod 2491t 6.7 knots
2 - 11in




It's a floating dinner plate with battleship guns, it's funny. Love it. Buy one, blow up
stuff in a silly looking ship.

If you don't like Novgorod (Which I think would be hilarious to see in game)

SU - Gangut 6590t 14.7knots
1 - 12in, Multiple light guns (all in casemates)




As NF is very good at bending history. A few may have to be streched a bit displacement
wise. It isn't of concern as the true fighting capability of a ship doesn't matter so
much in NF, it is just showing a true Historic ship. Not all these ships were
historically classed as "Monitors" either, but they are close enough since they match
thier layout. Guns can be balanced much like the 15in Dual for the UK, or just alternated
out with BB weapons currntly in game.


If anyone wants more information on any of these ships, such as dimensions, design
concepts, etc, just ask. I know it all. Likewise, if anyone wants to know of alternative
ships, ask as well. Off the top of my head I can think of other options for all but Germany.
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  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    09. 22. 2010 04:20

cambsguy
as long as they are not allowed in blitz!

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    02. 20. 2010 23:51

a3001
hmm....i would favor the lord clive over the robarts class. but as long as the spread
is blockshot even with auto, i don't see why not. and btw; DAMN!! why didn't i think
of that?! i used 11in singles on a mpro and that was a monitor to me! lol. ah well,
looks like i'm beaten to it again. recc'nd

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    02. 20. 2010 05:36

Dead_Pool
I am FF player :P love the idea of huge guns on small hulls, prob is i went km and
Bayern with 2 11s is like upgraded D38(?) cept D38s free. always trying to fit more
11s wherever i can ^^ reccd

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    02. 07. 2010 11:18

Rengokuy
NosceTeIpsum - beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Thank you for the rec.

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    02. 05. 2010 13:17

NosceTeIpsum
OMG they are SOO ugly! Good god!

Recced, I'll need to wait to tommorow. Love the idea.

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    02. 05. 2010 09:26

Rengokuy
pina - thank you

dom - if you actually read the text instead of just looking at pictures you would know.

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    02. 02. 2010 12:07

DoMMy94
Ugly and useless
Why should people recc this :P

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    02. 02. 2010 12:05

pininaz
recomenda

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    02. 02. 2010 12:03

Rengokuy
kaj, mitchell, hawk - Thank you ^^

mechman - Actually, APAs (Atlantis, Shinsu Maru, Pitt, Randall) are classed as CL's. So
Classifying the monitors as a PCL means they are classed the same as troopships.

elkev - Your thinking is a little off. Roberts is easily the largest ships here at 113m
(i'm doing this from memory and after classes tonight will put data down) This is just a
hair longer than the L-Class Destroyer. At the size ships are in NF, this means little,
so for arguments sake, the largest ship is the same size as a L-Class.

The K-Class crusiers were 173m long, So compare the K-Class and L-Class sprite.



And that's the largest of these ships.
Most of them would be smaller than a Q-Class.

Couple that with hitting like a BB2, PCL speeds, and high displacement, and you have a
fun, effective, yet not broken ship that is well worth purchasing.

The small hitbox is really what makes these ships worth paying for. Save for Roberts and
Matsushima, you pretty much need to strike the decks of these ships, It'll be kinda like
shooting a submarine, only somewhat easier. I doubt these would be put in with as much
damage resistance...that'd be a little unfair. Eitherway point remains that these ships
are not push overs that can just be dealt with quickly.

As a lover of PCL's, I can say dodging spreads with their tiny hulls is amazingly easy,
and unless it's a Fast, Narrow spread, you can survive with only abotu 2 hits.

Edit - Ok Wespe is bigger than Roberts but a liot. But still shorter than the K-Class.
And unlike both teh K and roberts, the only superstructure you can hit on Wespe is the
funnel or deck hour. So it balances out.

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    02. 01. 2010 01:45

Kaj1234
Love the idea, recc'd!
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