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  • Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 22. 2010 16:14

Rengokuy
Suggestion : Add a Second purchasable ship, classed as a Premium Light Cruiser. The ship
is a Monitor. Level Req should be higher than current PCL, and a special FCS should come
with them that allows for Battleship level of control.


Qualities of the Monitor


Large Displacement
Able to use Battleship Caliber Gun
Able to use Heavier Crew
Able to be armored better
Small Hull
All Foreward main armament in a single turret


Little or No Secondary Battery
Slow speeds


Ships to be Added

(listed with pure historic specs, in game they would all be faster, with more disp)

(reviews are to give an idea how all would interact with one another, this may be
different depending on how SDE would balance them)

UK - Roberts Class 8500t 12 knots
2 - 15in, 8 - 4in


Roberts will be to the Monitors as Moltke is the the PCA. Namely, very good, if not the
best. She will have a secondary armament. However, like the Furious and Tiger, Roberts
will be considerably larger than the other nations premium ships, thus losing the
advantage of a small hit box.

USN - Arkansas Class (later Cheyenne) 3,225t 12knots
2 - 12in, 3 - 4in, 1 - 3in


A better than average ship. She has a slighly above average armament with a slighly below
average hitbox. A small secondary battery helps ensure her overall satisfactory rating.

IJN - Matsushima Class 4200t 16.5 knots
1 - 12.5in, 12 4.7in


The fastest speed and heaviest secondary battery allow the Matsushima (IRL classed an
armored cruiser), so overcome her massive hitbox and comparativly weaker main.


KM - Wespe Class - 1139t 4knots
1 - 12in


What Wespe lacks in speed and armament, she greatly makes up for with being one of the
hardest ships to hit in NF. Virtually no superstructure and a length of 152m (a little
bit bigger than a destroyer) set low in the water means deck hits are a must.

MN - Tonnerre Class - 5700t 13 Knots
2 - 10.8in


Small and powerful with above average speed and displacement, as well as a twin turret.
She will face some problems thanks to her tall superstructure, she will however boast one
of the most unique firing arc's in game, as the turret is actually set starboard and
superstructure to port, giving her a nearly 300 degree firing arc, including directly aft.


RM - Faa Di Bruno (GM 194) 3 Knots
2 - 15in, 4 - 4in


She has the best Hitbox to Offense ratio, as she lacks virtually any superstructure.
Couple this with her large turret and secondary mounts, she would be in a close race with
Roberts for best monitor.

SU - Novgorod 2491t 6.7 knots
2 - 11in




It's a floating dinner plate with battleship guns, it's funny. Love it. Buy one, blow up
stuff in a silly looking ship.

If you don't like Novgorod (Which I think would be hilarious to see in game)

SU - Gangut 6590t 14.7knots
1 - 12in, Multiple light guns (all in casemates)




As NF is very good at bending history. A few may have to be streched a bit displacement
wise. It isn't of concern as the true fighting capability of a ship doesn't matter so
much in NF, it is just showing a true Historic ship. Not all these ships were
historically classed as "Monitors" either, but they are close enough since they match
thier layout. Guns can be balanced much like the 15in Dual for the UK, or just alternated
out with BB weapons currntly in game.


If anyone wants more information on any of these ships, such as dimensions, design
concepts, etc, just ask. I know it all. Likewise, if anyone wants to know of alternative
ships, ask as well. Off the top of my head I can think of other options for all but Germany.
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  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 31. 2010 21:14

elkev
To me it would seem like DD - CL1 hitbox, PCL speed, BB 1.5 range gun, hits like a
BB2 guns, takes a hit like a CA.

While I love diversity and new content I see these getting one shotted in GB games
and torp/bomber magnets in Blitz.

If you want to see how these would be put the big 11" singles on a K-berg and
never go above 18 knots.

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 31. 2010 19:06

Hawk010
recommended, i would definitly buy at least 2 if not all of em :)

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 31. 2010 18:46

mechman2300
cool i see your point. still monitors would be a great ship to add, they could put it in
the same categorie with the troop ships. for harbour attack,
:)

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 31. 2010 11:27

mitchell600
Recc'd.
I love monitors :D

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 31. 2010 09:45

Rengokuy
Ack too many people to type you. hrmmmm

levisthered to BengalTiger = Thank you ^^

Elisiss - No.....The 18in tiger is beyond a toy and the main reason I'd like to see these.
The tiger is....close to how a monitor should be, problem is, her displacement is just
too small, FCS is too weak, and gunspace not enough. Maybe they should be rated as
Heavy Cruisers......their level requierment will be rather high......either way. If teh
18in tiger can actually do damage, imagine what a purpose made ship with range could.

mechman2300 - I don't particularly agree with these replacing anything already in game.
That means that SDE wont see much of a profit from it for one, as well as make a lot of
people who arleady bought their PCL angry. It's better to just make it a new PCL or PCA.
Thank you though ^^

Darth - I included Novgorod becuase...it's eaisly the most intersting looking one, and
would probably sell just becasue people like how it looks, regardless of preformance.

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 30. 2010 16:36

darth_rader
cute Novgorod.
rec'd

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 30. 2010 14:41

mechman2300
i think .nf should replace the PCL with monitors. and give the jap PCL to the korean
fleet it was a thailand ship not japan. and their were all different types of monitors
made
buy the other country's in the game...or you can use costal defense ships. they were
pretty cool
....rec

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 30. 2010 14:15

mechman2300
thank god someone though of put monitors in the game i had the same suggestion
a few days ago and got crewed a new one. i think it would be a great idea to have
then in the game

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 30. 2010 08:39

Elisiss
so you don't like 11" KM PCL or UK 18" PCL atm.?
anyway, good effort :) rec.

  • Re : Second PCL - Monitor

    01. 30. 2010 03:33

BengalTiger
The Iowa is 2 meters wider than the Novogrod, don't worry about the port ;-p

Also- reccomended.
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