This isn't BBfield, everyone has their preference and/or like to use a variety of ships. most of the subs are fine, just nerf the splash damage some...

or we can just take your reaction as a typical "dont-nerf-my-stuff" one and just ignore you as totally biased.

Btw, whatever your opinion on the guy, lj is in a team that is in charge of balancing the game. He may has his faults, but ignorance of game balance is not one.

On another note, a KM SS4 took a full broadside from my kaiser today. And lived.

My SY (with little bulge granted, to keep 42 knot) took 1 torp salvo from an IJN SS4. And sunk.

That KM SS4 also shot torps that totally missed me, and exploded a ship width away from me. I took damage.

Bulge (255) is useless vs subs, it buys you 5 seconds of lifetime.

Also all nations ss to ss4 and still dying to ASW ships all the time, someone is special, not even altsein manages this.

I only have 2 ss3 crews, as is stopped playing them, because i find SSing boring. But then the only weapons threatining my subs are other subs and PHH. Normal HH dont matter at all, i am not even crit diving for those.

So that leaves us with other subs and a prem item to deal with subs, obviously ss are balanced just fine, just as yuno, king of too many chromosomes suggests.

I do think PHH are overpowered. But then you have to pay a lot of real money for them.

And if you really threatened by lvl 12 asw ships, well try hello kitty online. Not even at level SS1 should fear those. Unless someone uses mid lvl gunners 70-80ish, spread with HHs is horribad anyways, no noob neut dd has those anyway. DCs take too long to detonate, then again if you dont manage to crit dive in that time...there is always hello kitty online.

You can't critical dive sometimes, if you don't have SD, you will automatically get sunk if you try to critical dive. If you don't have enough air, you can't critical dive. And also, if you get hit when you are critical diving, you get a lot, a LOT more damage.

I have it easier to one-shot a SY with my Nelson than with my R type, so don't tell me that 4 lvl difference between them makes that difference in game.

With anything smaller than SS4, you can't reach the enemy line, and have enough air to do something. With SS4 you have enough air to kill the first one if he is distracted, and not so much more.

1/2 of my torps (except KM wich is about 1/8) misses so, if you quit my splash damage (wich you need to be good at aiming for hitting with it) i'm almost useless. I don't see any other ship that misses like subs (except KM) miss.

With my R type I can only carry 6 torps per launcher, did u see any other ship that can only carry 6 shots? (Other SS have a bit more torps, but nothing more than 8/9 torps per launcher).

I can only hit people in a low, really low range, I must reach the enemy line if I want to make damage, and most of the times I run out of air before I can reach them, or there are ASW ship with sonarman that sees me, and makes that they can run from me.

I dont have any way to scout the map, so if my team isn't scouting well, I can't find my enemies.

I agree subs are so hard against surface hits, but if you don't give them more air, you can't make them so squishy, because you are forcing them to go out of the water so often, and they will be food when out of the water...

On topic with post one...veering off course with post two...made a wrong turn at post 4...arguments began at post 5

Ok, since no one will answer the OPs question... this thread will be locked.

Xiangh,
Are there going to be any changes, probably yes.
They are in line to be worked on in the test server after the next proyect, which means they will receive some adjustments. The details are not yet clear, but once they start working on it they will make an announcement.

I hope this information helps you make your choice.