Exactly. Thirty players could easily be extented to 60 players minimum, and guess what, it
still wouldn't prevent a fleet from waisting another fleet's time. The rule should just
read: "Don't waste a defending fleet's time."

Ups, and there it is again, defending fleet. There was none.

We have a saying here in germany (probably in other countries too):

Where's no pursuer there's no judge.

Someone please show me the pursuer. I can only see the judge.

>There is no fleet defending but he already broke the 30 members rule.

So if a fleet with 29 members declares on a harbor, they're breaking the rule?
What if a fleet has 60 members but only 8 of them have logged in within the past 3 months?
Are they in accordance with the rule?

The other problem with this is not the rule itself but the consistency with which it was
enforced. Dozens of fleets have made declarations against a fleet so superior that the
declaration was a joke. We've even seen bottom-of-the-heap fleets be the first to take
harbors after an HA reset -- multiple times.

So why Rehor, and why now?
The answer is that Vick has a grudge against Rehor, was on the lookout for a slip-up, and
saw this as a way to ban him with a selective interpretation of a rule.

Really, there's only two small differences being made by Network taking the harbor.
1. Rehor gets to play HA.
2. The "HA equilibrium" is delayed by a week. In other words, it's one more link in the
chain of fleets that get beaten by successively stronger fleets until the top dog gets it
and no one takes it away after that.

The rule states that you can not attack a harbor when you are in a fleet of less than 30
people. The reason the rule was put in place is irrelevant- it is a rule that we all have
to follow. Rehor broke the rules. No matter what the circumstances are, if someone breaks
the rules, they should get punished. Just because Rehor views himself as somewhat of a
"Celebrity" doesn't make him above the rules that everybody in this game has to follow.

un just ban is unjust.

*Guys stop crying, vick11 just did his job lol?, he maked a right dissision. most of you
even don't know the background.

He did broke the rulles.


1. Basic Fleet requirements :

You must have at least 30 members to declare harbor assault, "Doesen't"

having less than " he Does"

this means you will have no chance of winning and will most likely lead to wasting
the defending fleets time. "There is no fleet defending but he already broke the 30
members rule."

Closed discussion sadly i'm not a mod:( *

No, it is you who does not understand the rule above.

Your obviously ignoring the rules purpose to justify what has transpired. The rule
protects the
fleet that HOLDS a harbour from a pointless attack by a small fleet. There was NO fleet
that held the harbour during the HAs last week when rehor took the harbour. ergo you and
the decision was incorrect.

What I still don't understand is why TNF did not defend the harbours same as they
have done in every other case after a harbour reset.?

Very strange....

o.O

And...when the declaration was made...which was not allowed under the rules...and
was raised with the GM's ..... why did they not remove the declaration...and then
they took a week to make their minds up?

Or do the GM's have a daytime job at the UN? They would fit right in there.

Guys stop crying, vick11 just did his job lol?, he maked a right dissision. most of you
even don't know the background.

1. Basic Fleet requirements :

You must have at least 30 members to declare harbor assault, "Doesen't"

having less than " he Does"

this means you will have no chance of winning and will most likely lead to wasting
the defending fleets time. "There is no fleet defending but he already broke the 30
members rule."

Closed discussion sadly i'm not a mod:(

A ban for a victimless crime?
Seriously?

@
@richard: I am not :-)

You're not in TNF are you :P?

Here's an idea, why not write some code that dosen't allow you to declare if there
are less than 30 accounts in the attacking fleet?

I think this ban is way over the top. This is your fault SDE, you should have checks in
to prevent this sort of thing. Rehor should be warned or whatever, then if he does it
again, ban him. However, banning him outright over something this small is
ridiculous.

I sense other motives.