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Please list any greievence you have with your ships
04. 09. 2010 08:21

Rengokuy	PLEASE READ FIRST Hello. I am currently compliling a list of the flaws with MN ships. If you have encounted anything in your playtime with france that, seems wrong, then please list it here in as much detail as possible. EXAMPLE OF WHAT TO SAY 13.4/45 cal Model 1912 - This gun has very wide dispersion issues, regardless of crew level or gunnary ability of the crew. EXAMPLE OF WHAT NOT TO SAY France Sucks So what, KM needs fixed first ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I thank you in advance for all those whom particupate. I will take the most relievent topics and ten make it into one large post on the suggestion forum. I will keep my own isses otu to see if the community comes up with the same thing, at least for now. ______________________________________________________________ Going through the Topics this is what I have so far. At level (and even above level) Dispersion for BB2,3,4 guns is too great. Ammo Bind issues on All Battleship some Cruisers Lorraine and Pairs are painfully slow, Lyon Normandie sorta slow (any others?) Fighters are Pratically inuseable, even for scouting. Alsace lvl 105 gun set, not worth the lvl.

Rengokuy

PLEASE READ FIRST

Hello. I am currently compliling a list of the flaws with MN ships.

If you have encounted anything in your playtime with france that, seems wrong, then please
list it here in as much detail as possible.

EXAMPLE OF WHAT TO SAY

13.4/45 cal Model 1912 - This gun has very wide dispersion issues, regardless of crew
level or gunnary ability of the crew.

EXAMPLE OF WHAT NOT TO SAY

France Sucks

So what, KM needs fixed first

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I thank you in advance for all those whom particupate. I will take the most relievent
topics and ten make it into one large post on the suggestion forum. I will keep my own
isses otu to see if the community comes up with the same thing, at least for now.

______________________________________________________________

Going through the Topics this is what I have so far.
At level (and even above level) Dispersion for BB2,3,4 guns is too great.
Ammo Bind issues on All Battleship some Cruisers
Lorraine and Pairs are painfully slow, Lyon Normandie sorta slow (any others?)
Fighters are Pratically inuseable, even for scouting.
Alsace lvl 105 gun set, not worth the lvl.

Re : Please list any greievence you have with your ships
04. 10. 2010 01:35

TheFaller	the quads that fit on the normandie/Lyon, u basicly only need 3 of them to actually 1-shot a BB4. If they ever fix the spread for a better one, then the dmg should be lowered a bit, or the range. thought i must say i never used a french BB, but for the looks of it, those BB2 seems somewhat better than the 16'' Fuso

Re : Please list any greievence you have with your ships
04. 09. 2010 22:18

AznAdmiral	I consider a vanguard still as a bb3.5 and not bb4. Its a special BB that is pretty dam scary...2nd on my list next to the L2. Well UK rp 15s are already lethal in their own sense.

Re : Please list any greievence you have with your ships
04. 09. 2010 21:19

Desolate	So, you're saying the vanguard doesn't pack a punch?

Re : Please list any greievence you have with your ships
04. 09. 2010 18:09

AznAdmiral	I think their needs to be a kind of 16inch gun implemeted somewhere. I mean the gunsets are all nice and all but a BB4 with 15inch guns doesnt pack the power of a 16inch. But either way its speed and AA make up for it I guess.

Re : Please list any greievence you have with your ships
04. 09. 2010 17:29

Gtdawg	The BBs need more ammo. The Alsace, especially. The shadows for the scouts need to be fixed. It really bugs me that the shadows are off. The at-level spreads for the BB234 are horrendous. The spread seems to improve dramatically when the gunners are 10 levels past the needed level. From what I remember, ONF was told the Alsace would be 104. So, 105 guns doesn't really matter. However, 105 guns for a 103 ships seems quite mean. All the other BB5s get level 100 guns and the Alsace guns aren't some spectacularly overpowered gunset that needs to be 105. The DB and TB are ridiculously overpowered. Despite what the GMs think, those values are not correct. They do not correspond to the values for the other nations.

Gtdawg

The BBs need more ammo. The Alsace, especially.

The shadows for the scouts need to be fixed. It really bugs me that the shadows are off.

The at-level spreads for the BB234 are horrendous. The spread seems to improve
dramatically when the gunners are 10 levels past the needed level.

From what I remember, ONF was told the Alsace would be 104. So, 105 guns doesn't really
matter. However, 105 guns for a 103 ships seems quite mean. All the other BB5s get level
100 guns and the Alsace guns aren't some spectacularly overpowered gunset that needs to be
105.

The DB and TB are ridiculously overpowered. Despite what the GMs think, those values are
not correct. They do not correspond to the values for the other nations.

Re : Please list any greievence you have with your ships
04. 09. 2010 17:05

Desolate	Meh.. I suppose more ammo would be nice.. 35 shots kinda sucks.. (lyon, normandie, strasbourg, richilieu). Otherwise... I'm good.

Re : Please list any greievence you have with your ships
04. 09. 2010 16:18

ewort	when you get the next class ship and put the biggest guns your gunners will allow .... there is only room for 1 bind of ammo. People have boosted that their MN ship could not be DBed untill my europa DBs sunk it. It seems that a MN DD is so much armoured and has stronger guns that if MN vs. another of same class ship ....... MN will win by doing more damage and taking far less damage.

Re : Please list any greievence you have with your ships
04. 09. 2010 16:01

Rengokuy	This thread is to comple a list of Exactly what is wrong with te MN, then create a post in the suggestion forum with it in it. Is it very effective, probably not, but it's far better than just complaining to each other that France sucks.

Re : Please list any greievence you have with your ships
04. 09. 2010 14:35

Adm_Welsh	Is this a thread for crying? Don't you cry enough in game?

Re : Please list any greievence you have with your ships
04. 09. 2010 13:29

OneLegPirate	lol pathetic comment from kaj1234 +1 to rehor's comment Mn ss2 subs are not slow by any standard Jusen is roughly around there.

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