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  • Who teach you that FLAG shoud be back?

    05. 16. 2011 02:44

thanajak

Any NF rule metion the CV FLAG should go back , go back . It with out freedom.

last week , I often be flag. I run near BB battle line for suppurt shoot down enemy
planes with local FT but BB order to me to go back!

The Flag meaning commander, right? If not, pls advice us the better meaning of
FLAG.

anyway, i think Flag should be commander, but players not ever think flag is
commander and give many order to FLAG as a FLAG is his son.
But that isn't me.
The flag should give orders to other player instead other player orders to flag.

one battle I be flag and control north group.
I try to push BB go forward (dont back) untill I got win.
And that battle , I get new history of NF that I(FLAG) meet enemy Flag at center of
map. Ha Ha, no have any appointment. after enemy BB was sunk by our BB team
with I command them to go forward( my tactics ) I try to rush forward for lead the BB
to follow us. also escort BB to cover.(I know my flag was modify good with high
speed and small shape, I have power of turn force ,so I can do like this) nice BBs
agree my plan and go with us.
So enemy BB north sunk all. and I found enemy FLAG is alone and going to me.
I tell our BB that don't sink him. until my ship(FLAG) overlap enemy flag. as FLAG
huming FLAG, Ha Ha

That time all player isvery surprise that meeting. Thank a lot BB that game who join
our plan.

That is nice time on NF. everybody may have a nice time, If they play with together.
NOT ORDER FLAG. If your Flag have leadership.

Some battle, I can't have a good BB. They order us to back and say noob.
someone tell us that is common sence the FLAG shouldbe back.
I tell him that common sence in 1942. now is 2011.


Thank you
Thanajak

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  • Re : Who teach you that FLAG shoud be back?

    05. 21. 2011 11:45

Sonlirain
Jeez.
Let this thread DIE already.
Some native engrish speaker wants to rush in his flagship?
Let him do it. He will learn (hopefully) to stay back in due time.

  • Re : Who teach you that FLAG shoud be back?

    05. 21. 2011 10:16

Mor_idin
I spot the flag on the opposing team and I'm calling out it's co-ords, and directing
traffic towards it (subs, etc).

there's a difference between pinching in to help, and fool hearted stupidity. yes
you're helping with locals as you can (which are a better option overall these days
than tier 1s and even tier 2s with the number of tier 4 fighters out there to go up
against).

however, you're target #1. "common sense" stipulates that you should NOT make
yourself an easy target. since sinking you, especially in a counter attack = a lost
game.

you're in the front line, which means a lucky shot can one hit sink you. a sub that
makes it there undetected has you in it's sights without having to hunt for you. and a
premium CV or CV6 can swarm your locals with pumped up Tier 4s and you're bomber
bait.

usually if BBs and other players are telling you something, it's for a reason. being an
ass about it doesn't make you many happy team mates if you cost them the game.

  • Re : Who teach you that FLAG shoud be back?

    05. 20. 2011 23:31

BlackGunner
Quote: Wikipedia
A flagship is a vessel used by the commanding officer of a group of naval ships,
reflecting the custom of its commander, characteristically a flag officer, flying a
distinguishing flag. Used more loosely, it is the lead ship in a fleet of vessels,
typically the first, largest, fastest, most heavily armed, or, in terms of media coverage,
best known.
---

This does 'not' mean that the particular commanding officer is in command of the fleet,
only that it serves as a beacon and/or relay to ships of its type. By beacon/relay, I
mean that it's actions are looked upon by the other ships of it's type as inspirational,
or thought out. In other words, the morale ship.

What the CV Flagship does is looked on by the other CVs. It is expected to set an example
for the other CVs in the area. It is not there to dictate or assume command of the other
CVs, it is simply there to inspire and be a guideline example to what other CVs should be
doing.

If you're the CV flagship, and you're rushing the enemy BBs; other CVs that are
inexperienced are going to look to you as the flagship, and assume that what you're doing
is what they should be doing. And of course, if you lead all your teams CVs to death,
you've essentially signed the death warrant of every ship in the fleet.

Now to point out, there are '2' flagships on each side. But only '1' of those flagships
actually matter game-wise. Each side has the BB flagship and the CV flagship. The BB
Flagship is expected to be a beacon for the offensive operations, while the CV is the
beacon for support / defensive operations. The reason being that if the CV flag is sunk,
the death warrant for your entire fleet has been signed unless you can sink the enemy CV
flag within 5 minutes.

Now, in the concept of commanders. CV's are support ships, not warships. If a flagship
'was' to be the one issuing orders, it'd be the BB flagship, not the CV flagship. And to
be clear about people telling CV Flagships to get back; they're not giving you an order,
they're communicating the best course of action for the current situation, from their
experience. Keep in mind, there are players that have been on here a lot longer then you
and many other people. They know what they're doing, and what they're talking about.

If someone tells you to do something, and you question if you should do it or not; you
should 'do' what they've asked you to do first, and then if you have a question about it,
you ask about it 'AFTER' you've done it. Usually, when someone tells you to do something,
there is a reason behind why they want you to do it. However, sometimes they don't have
time to explain 'why' they told you to do it at the time. Whether it be that they were in
combat, retreating, or adjusting their posistion/angle, they don't have time to be
explaining every action they take. Just do what you're told first, and ask questions later.

  • Re : Who teach you that FLAG shoud be back?

    05. 20. 2011 22:23

Maistral
well, bringing locals in a low-tier CV while being flag requires you to be extremely
attentive, so, meh.

  • Re : Who teach you that FLAG shoud be back?

    05. 20. 2011 22:18

Hypnos
I dont mind u going front if u are capable to keep them totally blind and w/o any kind of
air support. If u do this i will be in front of u killing them all. But if u cant fullfil
that then, know ur place and put u behind the line in a safe area where u can support ur
team quickly and dont be killed.

  • Re : Who teach you that FLAG shoud be back?

    05. 20. 2011 22:13

clerick50
^ Yes indeed, I have made a guide on using locals as well. I'm pretty dam sure i said to
stay close to the battleline, bt not too close or even on it.

  • Re : Who teach you that FLAG shoud be back?

    05. 20. 2011 22:08

Maistral
omg funny thread, even funnier is it's title


anyway, well when i was a low level CV i was staying up front too, basically because i
have low-level FTs, thus using locals.



i'm judging this basing on my experience, ok.

if you want, stay close enough to the BB battleline in order to protect them from bombers
and killing scouts,

but stay far enough for you not to be raped one step outside

  • Re : Who teach you that FLAG shoud be back?

    05. 20. 2011 22:02

Falcon91
i realize this Amorgan >.< he was on my team the other night and ya i felt ashamed to have
him as a flag, no flaming intended but truly KEEP OFF THE BATTLELINE

  • Re : Who teach you that FLAG shoud be back?

    05. 20. 2011 17:22

clerick50
Ok, because I am bored and having read all five pages of comments, I, or perhaps
WE, advice you start listening and putting these, advices into practice if you want to
win, or keep this up and become some bad ornament for your team. Earlier on you
said something about being tactics. Number one, running ON the BB line is not a
tactic, it's annoying. Number two, Flagship on NavyField does not mean you're a
commander in anyway (Despite the fact that Im in a Ticonderoga, I don't give orders
at all when I'm Flag). Yes, as someone mentioned earlier (Forgot your IGN, sorry
=.="), it is always best as the flagship to stay somewhere between 3/4 to an entire
screen away from your BB line. Also, even if you have a small boat, and good turning
force, and over heat, it is only a matter of time before you get yourself killed. One
can only run for so long. These are the potential main points for a CV to help a team
win. Also, you don't have to speak to give orders, just fly your aircrafts to the enemy
positions, and the BBs will do their jobs. For instance i know a couple of BB players
who'd love to have me on the team simply because both our minds, are jus
connected in a sense. We both jus know wat needs to be done to win this match.
Hopefully you'll understand.

  • Re : Who teach you that FLAG shoud be back?

    05. 20. 2011 16:17

wenigdrache
wow that formatted funny as hell
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