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    03. 21. 2011 12:49

Monarch


Everyone can feel bad about CVs getting so much blame and abuse but these three fine
examples brand everyone with the same brush.

The IJN and USN CVs sat at the spawn loading 8 local fighters or bombers on one pilot. The
UK PCV went to the north boarder to be gunned down last. None of them could be bothered
going south and none of them could be bothered to either scout or shoot down enemy scouts
or bombers.

Anyhow, those players are the reason why I give flak to the people that don't try. Back to
go raging at being in a constant night battle...
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  • Re : As a general rule

    03. 21. 2011 17:51

dampre
Barrettttt teaccchh meeee how to play CV!

;)

  • Re : As a general rule

    03. 21. 2011 17:40

Barrett
The point i was trying to make is these new CV players don't have anyone to look up to, or
when given advice - don't listen.

I'm one of the "good" CV drivers, but since I've come back to play i've only been in my
Russian ships, and any friendly advice i gave was shot down / ignored or replied to with
just insults. Maybe its because they don't recognize the name , or they think cause its a
CA/BB giving advice its just another whiny BB player.

Ive given tips and advice to many players, and a lot of them became great CV players
(Ewood being one of them).

It sucks trying to help someone only to see them fail over and over and over....

  • Re : As a general rule

    03. 21. 2011 17:31

dudeabar
I feel like analyzing this post troll.

"First off, Monarch, you are fail and a crybaby like every other BB player out there
bitching about every CV that doesnt do exactly what you want. Yes, sitting at start
is not smart, but thats how they play. Oh, and thats not a PCV going north... just
saying.

1) Troll
2) Monarch owns a CV6 (Or close too?) and as said before, he has quite a good
grasp on how to play it.
3) There's ways a CV is meant to be played, not moving at the start, or having the
"biggest" CV not going south is a wrong thing, and has been for, uh, ever?
4) You need to have a nice hard look at what the PCV's are...


"Insert Spliddy's quote here"

"Thats all we need, more people trying to tell CV players how to play and moaning
because they have a brain of thier own they use instead of being mindlessly
controlled by BBs players who are bitching and crying cause they are blind and have
no scout of thier own (ships that dont hold scout - Nelson - are excluded from that
remark). *sigh*"

1) Read the CV guide
2) Stop swearing..
3) Watch the good CV players play. EWood, and Bong (Just off the top of my head.)
4) Most of them cry, like myself, because my efforts of scouting with my measely
scout plane cannot defend itself, and has no attack power. Sorry, that I'm fighter
camped while you launch 9 more bombers on 1 pilot. Sorry that I cannot AA down
every single last plane because your too incompetent to send up a set of fighters,
and then launch a scout, just to have my last one shot down by incoming fighters,
yet again.

"CVs do make or break a team, no
doubt, but with crappy BBs (like most players are now a days becasue of just
leaching exp until they reach BB3+), then CVs dont stand a chance."

Find me in my H44, and I'll show you my efforts to scout. Do not tell me CV's do not
stand a chance of winning because I'm playing my BB, as I'll just laugh in your face.
Like you said, CV's can make, or break the game, and 90% of the time they break the
game as they do not do their job. Scout, and down planes on the way to the area
needing scouting. I ask for scouting when all my scouts are gone, which are quite
fast with the idiots running around in CV's now a days (Screw you WayWay when
your on the other team -_____-). I played a game with WayWay a few days ago, and
he told me when we were going to go blind, and I launched a scout pree much
immediately after he said that. This, led to constant scouting, and myself and another
BB roflstomping south, and winning us a game by a very wide margin.

"stop bitching that "FAIL CVS! BOOHOO!" People like
you make me want to just TK the shit out of you when the game starts."

Stop swearing, theres young people reading this, like myself.


Play as a team, win or lose as a team, but dont sit there and blame us CV players.
We can only do some much... especially as this picture shows a 1 gold bar
Yorktown... no offense to that players, but his FC is basically worthless except to
shoot down Scouts. 90% of other CVs FPs will eat his without 1 loss."

Indeed, but there is a thing called microing, or at the very worst, dragging your
fighters OFF OF YOUR OWN LINE, and scouting the enemy whilst the enemy planes
follow yours, or turn around. I'm a BB player, but I have a good grasp of CV play, as
I've always liked CV play better, and have had 2 CV's of my own, soon to be 3.



So, what have we learned? Oh, PUT A DAMN SCOUT ON YUR BB.

We do have scouts on our BB. They just get shot down because of CV's not downing
the enemy planes, us running out of AA to shoot them down, or you just sending
wave, after wave of bombers.

  • Re : As a general rule

    03. 21. 2011 17:25

Lionel2
@ Barrett - Do you think that any of these CV drivers want to suck? Come on! Of course I
want to be the best player I can be, and I'm sure that the three guys pictured in here
didn't log in with the thought they were going to see how many skilled sailors they could
lose today.

Yes, it may be annoying seeing people do stupid things and maybe they don't listen, but
some do. V2 has probably spent hours reading and responding to piles of my questions in
the USN forum. VDUB spent 2 hours doing practice missions with me the other day, showing
me how to fly, the right way. (BTW, I got the torping down great, but I still need work on
those DBs!)

Had it not been for 2 people showing me what to do, I'd have a screwed up crew and I'd be
doing manual torp bombing, amoung other stupid things. I'm a grown man and a 20 year
military vet. I have no problem with finding people and asking for help or admitting where
I'm weak or need help. Others need just a little bit of encouragement. Giving up on new
players means the end of NF. Even if you all you do is type two letters "gj" as positive
reinforcement, thats a move in the right direction. Anything is better than bitter, mean
and uncaring enviornment. We do need you experienced people to set things right.

  • Re : As a general rule

    03. 21. 2011 16:55

Barrett
"Oh, and thats not a PCV going north... just saying."

I Lol'ed

It's unfortunate that a good chunk of the good CV players aren't playing CV anymore (cept
fleet wars) so these nubs could see how its supposed to be played.

  • Re : As a general rule

    03. 21. 2011 16:54

Ewood
>>@ Vdub: An interesting point of view but I think I am proof that you dont need to
>>spend money to win with CV...

Agreed...
Fighters with 200 vets are awesome...
However my UK CV6 crew and my jap ones have 130-140 vets or so, gained through
events. Only money spent was on boosts.
Think both me an Bong have beaten people who have spent massive numbers of $$ on
elites, experts and vets. Skill >> $$
;-)

  • Re : As a general rule

    03. 21. 2011 16:52

Lionel2
Ok, I need to applogize in here to Ewood. I didn't realize that he had a whole guide over
there in tips/tactics. However, I have been all over the place trying to learn how to do
it. Without some help from so kind hearted and talented people, I really would have given
up on the game, or on some aspects of the game. It shouldn't be that way. There should be
how to manuals on this website, that really actually show you how to.

  • Re : As a general rule

    03. 21. 2011 16:50

Ewood
>>First off, Monarch, you are fail and a crybaby like every other BB player out there
>>bitching about every CV that doesnt do exactly what you want

Monarch also has a CV, he has a decent idea of how to use it too, stupid remarks are
stupid...

>>Oh, and thats not a PCV going north... just saying.

Looks like the UK PCV to me...
Just sayin...

>>Thats all we need, more people trying to tell CV players how to play and moaning
>>because they have a brain of thier own they use instead of being mindlessly
>>controlled by BBs players who are bitching and crying cause they are blind and
>>have no scout of thier own (ships that dont hold scout - Nelson - are excluded
>>from that remark). *sigh*

I don't try and help most CV players nowadays, because most of them are retarded,
or, because they have a PCV or CV6 think they know how to use it...

>>We can only do some much... especially as this picture shows a 1 gold bar
>>Yorktown... no offense to that players, but his FC is basically worthless except to
>>shoot down Scouts. 90% of other CVs FPs will eat his without 1 loss.

However that YT can still carry bombers and nuke enemy CV's. Do that and those T2
fighters he should be carrying suddenly become worth their weight in gold

  • Re : As a general rule

    03. 21. 2011 16:48

V2CxBongRipz
@ Vdub: An interesting point of view but I think I am proof that you dont need to spend
money to win with CV...

  • Re : As a general rule

    03. 21. 2011 16:32

vdub1
CV= those with $$ win
BB= those with time investment can compete with $$

bb ability can allow you to compete.

with cv the gap is HUGE between levels, you have t1 t2 t3 t4, t4 decimate almost anything....

There is 'little ability in cvs' when you can just throw $$ into your crew and be better
then someone similar in level. At least in bb's you can out shoot...
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