>>Kola also brings up an excellent point. Does anyone realize that NF does not provide
>>a tutorial on how to run a CV? Sure, you can surf through the forums and find some
>>tips and information, but learning how to run one is hard and nuts and bolts
>>inforamtion is not provided!

Each national forum has, almost without fail, a sticky regarding CV's (and in most cases,
their outfitting). In the tips and tactics section, there are multiple threads on how to
manual bomb, auto-bomb and how to use your fighters. If you are in a fleet, most fleets
will have, I imagine, a section on BB and CV tactics/basics/tutorials. If they don't ask
people...

Learning how to do the CV 'basics' is easy an will put you above the average 'GB CV'.
Learning how to do the other stuff makes you even better...

Maybe those cv weren't taugh of how to play as a team, or maybe they don't give a damn about what the rest of the
team thinks

I have one guess as to why they don't have sight south. There is probably a CV on Alpha
that is keeping them blind. What a novel idea that is.

Freeplay - your quite right. Even the low level CVs can do damage with bombers. But what
is the one thing that BBs don't care if they do? Bomb! They want you to scout, shoot down
other planes, so on. But if you are a bombing machine, they don't care.

They can learn to play, CV 1 BW can easily make 40k attack per game.

Yeah, and there are so many players out there that train like 2-3 pilots thinking thats
all they need for their CV. I try to set them straight as often as I can spot them.

Kola also brings up an excellent point. Does anyone realize that NF does not provide a
tutorial on how to run a CV? Sure, you can surf through the forums and find some tips and
information, but learning how to run one is hard and nuts and bolts inforamtion is not
provided!

Again Lionel, you hit it on the nose. Those are low level 1-2 gold bar CVs. What better
can they do? What do you expect a T1 or T2 to do against 10 T4? Have you also
thought about the fact that this game has practically NO tutorial and doesn't tell you
anything about how many pilots? People yell at CVs for refusing to scout, but BBs have
their own scout slot. People yell at CVs for not giving FC, but BBs have T slots PERFECT
for AA guns. People yell at CVs for not attacking enemy ships, yet BBs have many guns
for the same thing with a much faster reload. Besides, would a BB2-3 be much help in
GB2? Not really. It would do damage, but not as much as a BB5-6.

I also see that you have scouts on your ship and also that south isn't scouted. Why?

EDIT: Seeigel, I do agree that CVs do need to move here. That does prove that these
guys don't have as much experience, but it still doesn't really change the fact that BBs
seem to be helpless and rely on CVs on everything.

It is an Akagi-remodol so a CV4 level 84. So a few levels higher. Just by the way.

The problem is not CVs that are not scouting, or hunting fighters or bomber instead, but
CVs that dont see that BBs cant grant vision for themselves.
Most times if enemy CVs camps their own battle-line with fighters (and maybe also heavy
AA-fire)
A scout has no chance about a swarm of T4/locals chasing it when it comes into sight of
the own BB-line.

What is the result?
The team will be blind, even if BBs tried to scout.

And just in my opinion (or as a tip), a CV should move at least a little bit cause if he
sits at spawn and was spottet once it is really easy for bombers or subs to find and kill
him. He cant even run away cause he needs some seconds to get his engines running. Often
too late to dodge bombers.
He hasnt to move fast, but he should move a bit. Just for being not as vulnerable as
sitting at spawn.

And sorry for my bad english

In a game I don't call out BB drivers that don't do AA while just driving up and down with
main guns that can't reach the enemy.

In a game I don't call out BB drivers that don't make smoke or even move when DBs and TBs
come baring in and blast them out of the water.

In a game I don't call out BB drivers that don't have scouts.

In a game I don't critize BB drivers EVERY time I see them miss a target.

In a game I don't tell BB drivers where to go, what to shoot, or in any way play their
game. When I have bad ones in front of me, I know.

So what did the UK CV do that was so bad? Did you expect him to be in the north and the
south at the same time?

Aside from being inefficient (going south and getting planes off the deck faster) what did
the other two do that was so bad? You suggested they should have been shooting down
scouts. Two weeks ago I saw a thread in here where some well known BB players were all
saying that they have their own AA. All friendly fighters do is get in the way. Friendly
fighters should be over the enemy, and if the BBs have to TK friendly fighters to kill
enemy fighters (after all they are always "endlessly circling") that that was fine. The
bulk of the posters all were senior BB players and they all agreed and even said that a TK
penelty shouldn't happen because friendly fighters are in the way all the time.

Then, you state that they should perhaps be scouting. If BBs provided their own scouts,
then perhaps you wouldn't need to rely on them. Notice that the two ships are a Yorktown
and a Hiru. I wouldn't expect a Yorktown to have much beyond L60 or L70 fighter pilots.
They would be dying in droves as the AA ships and other sides playes ate them alive.
Scouting would be a waste of combat assets.

Finally, you don't mention the end of game score. Did they contribute by sinking ships?
How about crippling BBs that were then easier to sink? Did you take this into account?
Please don't mistake the tone that I'm right this, I'm not attacking you I'm bringing up
points for discussion. The final point to this is, who in this game has the right to give
flak to anyone for their method of play? How do you know they weren't trying? No one
should have the right to be giving flak to anyone for not being a good player. All that
does is make the game a miserable place to be.