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  • CV ALASKA! Also the 4 Nations CV/BB Hybrid Thread

    07. 10. 2009 19:47

Kapusta
Now if this topic has already been made, nothing came up in my searches, and I
searched every possibility for such a thing as I could, and all I could find was a
sentence about a CV owa hybrid, which would be a little above the tier I'm thinking
of here.

*Everyone* knows that the IJN has the CV Ise, a hybrid CV/BB, and possibly TW.
And for a long time, people have been wanting a CV like this for each nation,
especially since the recent temporary spikes in CV wars due to the July 4th event.
Now I know that several CV/BB hybrids have been suggested before, but I believe
that this would be the best option: the Alaska CV conversion remodel.

Now, for a little history, which I'm kind of unclear of myself. As I understand it, the
US sort of had a CV crisis after the Battle of the Coral Sea, what with the Lexy being
sunk and the Saratoga in for repairs, and not many Essexes being in commision, the
USN was looking for ships to convert. There was the Baltimore, Cleveland, Alaska,
among others. But the Alaska stood out because it was similar to the Essex in many
way, but blah blah blah, Cleveland got chosen instead -> Independence, and
Baltimore -> Saipan, which is not in the game, and I didn't find that in any searches
either.

While the Alaska was never actually turned into a CV, and only 2 were built
anyways, I think it'd be a good candidate because:

1. It's similar to the Essex.
2. It's currently very crappy.
3. It's a BB1, just like the Ise, so as not to make it overpowered.
4. It's crappy.
5. It's gigantic and could use some fixing, so why not turn it into a CV?
6. It's an underpowered BB, so it's crappy.
7. The taking off of 1 gun won't be too bad, not that its firepower was all that great
anyways.
8. It has low firepower:size ratio, making it crappy.
9. It might have actually existed, although probably not in the form I'm talking about,
being a flattop instead, but I like it more this way anyways, so too bad!
10. Did I mention that right now, it's crappy?

Now as mentioned before in the list, if it had actually undergone conversion, it would
probably have become a flattop. However, things didn't progress far enough for
plans to be drawn up, so I'm just gonna "assume" that it was gonna be a hybrid.
Since it is very large, it would make a better aircraft carrier than certain tiny
CVs that somehow serve as runways for giant cargo planes *cough*Oyodo*cough*.
And also, since it only has one rear gun, the removal of it would give it still 2/3 the
firepower, therfore not nerfing its firepower so much that it basically becomes a
normal CV, and it would certainly be fun(ner) to drive.

Allowing the Alaska to remodel into a US hyrid BB/CV would add another aspect to
US BB play,
and would also be quite amusing. It would turn the US's crappier BB1 into an
acceptable and perhaps enjoyable ship. And while it would require a CV crew, many
US BB beginners have already gone CV. And for those who haven't, it would
encourage them to try out a BB before getting too sunken into a BB. Besides, the
Ise did it! And as for a name, Alaska would work for me, but you'd need to use
another date or something. You could also use Hawaii, or the name of one of the
other 4 Alaskas.

So now, enjoy some pretty pictures and such:

A side by side comparison between my crude MS-Paint-skin-grafted CV Alaska model
and the current CB Alaska model:


And the CV Alaska stat board thingy:


Oh, and did I mention that this will decrapify the Alaska :)?
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  • Re : CV ALASKA!

    07. 16. 2009 00:16

billy333
kapusta, first as all, ise cv is remoded and survived for the japan imperial navy, and
it is a half bb and cv for sure. but alaska remode is different, it is disign for a
absulote cv without any bb gunn on it, if sde accept ur opion, y sde dont let other
ship those which could be remoded like alaska(the one that u want)? how about
remode furious? remode yamato? there is no way for sde to make it, if u want to
play cv with bb gun, y dont u go for japanese line then?

  • Re : CV ALASKA!

    07. 15. 2009 21:45

Genosaurer
(I'm not sure if you actually care about the ship you're making being able to physically
operate aircraft or not. If not, ignore this post.)

Early experiments with aircraft carriers (for example, HMS Furious) demonstrated quite
clearly that it was a very, very bad idea to have a conning tower and/or stack in the
middle of your fight deck. The airflow coming around them created all sorts of very nasty
cross-winds that made takeoff and landing extremely hazardous. The easiest solution was to
simply shove all of that stuff off to one side (called an "island"), or under the deck (as
in Ryujo). Later hybrid planning, such as the US flight-deck cruisers, also considered the
possibility of an angled flight deck as a way of minimzing interference from the
superstructure and getting a flight deck of reasonable length.

Additionally, note that a rear-only flight deck would be incapable of launching aircraft.
To launch aircraft a carrier has to steam into the wind, but that requires a flight deck
that's unobstructed from the front. The simplest solution there would be the one used in
the hybrid conversions of Ise and Hyuga - in those ships the added platform was simply an
aircraft handling deck; the planes were intended be launched by catapults placed at the
edges and recovered by other ships. A more practical solution would be (again) an angled
flight deck, or a flight deck that extends over the superstructure, or a superstructure
that is placed off to one side and a longer flush flight deck that goes past it.

  • Re : CV ALASKA!

    07. 15. 2009 21:33

vcadoda
50 Knot CV with 12" Guns DO WANT >:)

  • Re : CV ALASKA!

    07. 15. 2009 21:25

minertheron
Kapusta i did better then de blurring it i changed the flight deck and i need to clean a
bit near the back gun slot and a few more places but other wise this is a whole lot better
tell me what u think ---another seydlitz axe murdered for this thread lol---

  • Re : CV ALASKA!

    07. 15. 2009 18:41

Kapusta
Looks good so far. Deck looks blurry, but, better than what I could do probably.
Since I only have paint..., but maybe we should make an official All Nations BB/CV
Hybrid Thread?

  • Re : CV ALASKA!

    07. 15. 2009 16:01

minertheron
and for your part about there being one hybrid for each nation here you a remod for the BC
P project II made through axe murdering a cv seydlitz i need to re do it this is just a
fast make of it i'll remake it later

  • Re : CV ALASKA!

    07. 15. 2009 15:35

Kapusta
Wow. Maybe even an Atlanta CV conversion :). Imagine that, an AA CV ;)

  • Re : CV ALASKA!

    07. 15. 2009 15:33

JasonZombolt
No Problem.
I am also going to have a Light Cruiser/CV Hybrid soon too.
Maybe have a sprite for each that you can Actually use ;)

  • Re : CV ALASKA!

    07. 15. 2009 14:51

Kapusta
Awesome iowa. And thanks for supporting the idea.

  • Re : CV ALASKA!

    07. 15. 2009 14:49

minertheron
wow i like what i see also a lower lvl team bnf member i will also be glad to help you if
u need it




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