We already had a thread about this, but certain people are trying to say it will ruin the game or something, lol. It's really all about not having free lunch. It's a lot harder to make the bb5 to bb6 run when you don't have unlimited amounts of noobs to kill, then they comlain about the shared xp, lol. If it wasnt for shared xp in the GB rooms, the noobs wouldnt ever score a single point lol.

Say, if you limited the GB2 to lvl 10-100, then all the lvl 101-120 guys couldnt come in and kill most of the ships, and would have to hunt each other in their own rooms. That's the reason, nothing else. They will try to say it will somehow ruin the skill level of the people in the lower rooms, but don't really see how getting a chance to shoot and maneuver and scout will DECREASE skill level, vs getting one shotted.

Whatever, those guys won this game anyway, so I wouldnt hold my breath waiting for a great change like this, theyre hooked on easymode free lunch. And have the balls to complain about their lunch getting ANYthing out of the deal.

Lol, reminds me of the creation vs evolution argument. One side or the other, you arent going to change anyone's mind, if its made up. Logic doesnt enter into this argument very frequently.

You seem like a smart guy, answer your own questions, lol. I made a statement, if you want to refute it, then refute, dont lay out something and tell me, "you do the math".

Your points are as expected. In fact, you point out the advantage of an older player by stating that ppl do more tan one line, who doesnt load very high crew, especially supports on their ship the sec they leave blitz , if they ever are in it in the first place? Shared high lvl crew, plus experience in endgame boats give you the experience you need to compete at a higher lvl in GB2 in lower level boats. Add in the generally offensive attitude to anyone in game towards anyone who lacks skill or ecxperience, and how are these people supposed to learn?

Most just give up, combine buggy game with insane learning curve=fail game/move on to a more fun game. How is our plyer base doing these days? Oh, yeah, we just had ANOTHER merge. That is the proof right there. If the current system worked , it wouldn't be this way.

And BTW, you never refuted any of my claims, specifically, that endgame players cant come up with any reason NOT to have level selection in GB, other than they lose easymode. That's it. Nothing else stands up. BB4 vs all lower is too easy? Its gonna ruin the skills of the new players? Your concern for their skill development is touching, but I'm sure those people would prefer that to what is going on now. No, as I said above, things will stay the way they are for the reasons I gave, no more, no less.

I just wish any of you would just admit:" I was food forever til i got my big boat, and I'll be damned if anyone else has less of a hassle than I did. I earned the right to own noobs 24-7, and even if it completely kills this game." I would have a lot more respect for that position, as opposed to the fake intellectual reasons you guys give.

Surprising result of the last 3 threads with this general idea? That the dozen or so heavy forum warriors I would have expected to sound off on this to the negative have stayed out totally. I must say, my respect for them has increased greatly, seeing as how many of them pretty much make actual policy for this game.

Like I told dersico, dont waste your time, otherwise guys like you will come in here spouting crap about easymode, and blah, blah, blah. We want honesty. Just come out and say it. You like free lunch. Every other game has a gradual pvp exposure system. This doesnt. And how is this game's player base doing? It's not a coincidence.

i am trying to get the Navyfield developers to make a Great Battle style room that has a maximum bo and crew level of 88. This would be ideal for low tier capital ships players as they can actually get to play without getting dominated by high tier battleships and their planes constantly getting preyed on by tier 4 fighters. Also Submarine level would be reduce so that there will be no tier 4 subs. I think this will really help the game as it would actually convince newer players to actually stay playing the game when they come out of Blitz. Also having be able to fight ships of similar level the newer players can get to improve their playing skill much easier and there will be more competitive spirit between players. Also I think it would much more fun to play against players of own level than one shooting newb players

Hey , sorry to anyone out there, that may feel like they could belong to a group that I've been somewhat dissing. Don't take my fire for actual animosity. I'm having an alright time playing every line, it's hard, but I'm an old school game buff, ala hardcore diablo ^^.

I don't mind a challenge, and that's where some of my viewpoints come from. BUT I also know and like the more casual players. I find them less serious and stuffy than the average hardcore gamer, and they inject a bit of fun into the game. They also have wallets, and are only too willing to part with a few bucks for a good game experience. But we aren't providing them with this.

Its a buggy game with some rough transitions. I feel they would overlook the bugginess (and actually, I find this game runs better than ever overall on a new system, lag is nonexistent for me.) if it was a bit smoother in general. For instance, they bang away with auto, the BAM, manual or die. Have one or the other, or a mix of both, this current situation is a BIG putoff for the average gamer.

Then, they get the hang of it , they are lvling, and BAM, they cant blitz and are in GB getting OWNED in general, and finding very very little chance to actively participate in the game. Face it, in BB1 you bide your time til you can move into an ongoing fight and pick up scraps. That just isnt as fun as getting into scraps with give and take. They participate actively, relax and learn. And anyone that advocates the current system for whatever reason, the main theme I've heard is the game isn't so hard as is, and nothing should change. Well, the amount of players who leave vs stay beg to differ.

And what if they changed it? You came up hardcore, you wouldn't be able to handle having to host your own lvl 40-120 rooms? That would remove the total leechers from your rooms. Ever think about that? AA and ASW in those rooms would be superior to now. It's ironic that the people that use their superior skill as an argument would shrink from this challenge of a room with all bb5 and bb6, and no under 40 leeches. THATS hardcore.

So, sorry for the dissing tone of some of my posts. I just dislike the crying about stuff being OP, and the generally hostile and stuck-up attitudes I see here and ingame. Good ideas, at least worth a try, no real coding involved, get shut down out-of-hand. As far as I can tell, the only really screwed up thing, like top of the list, is the HH. Those are nucking futs.

Other the fact that every host would abuse this and limit so they are the biggest ship in the room?

Other than the fact your proposition is to develop a mean to get an even easier leveling without improving your playing?

Other than the fact you are totally mistaken, and top dog players can still farm your BB5 with a BB1?

I might not be the best BB player ever, but I think I'm in that "farmer" category you speak of. And vs most BB5, I can get results with a BB3. So limiting the level won't make it easier for the less experienced players.

Finally, it will make it harder on leveling BB5+ due to less games starting for them. Or allow no DD/CL for an SS4 haven.


Honestly, we all started noob, and its by hard work, will to improve, and constantly challenging ourselves.

Stop blaming someone that is better than you, and try to see why and learn from it.



Also: normal room can adjust the level. If you so want a limited room, then take the people that are rec'ing this and organize a room. Of course its pure personnal xp in those. And there is no limit on SKILL.

i don't even like adjustable level for Great Battle Style rooms so i am not reccing this. But I think there should a Great Battle Style Room that is ideal for players between lvl 60 and 88 which is the level between the end of Blitz and just before Tier 4 Battleships. Submarine players would need a lower maximum playable level so that there will be no tier 4 subs.

"Stop blaming someone that is better than you, and try to see why and learn from it." - Aingeal

Very nicely said.