Thank you so much. Mine is Reload EBVE (109 vet, to be full experted)., which means according to your calculation, they gotta be at least level 104.

By the way, can you also tell me how do I calculate TA for sailors and  compare that to cap? I thought it was Ability Displayed x Number of Total Sailor{Number of Expert + 4(Number of Veteran)}, but when I do so I get so huge number while other guys in forum speak of numbers in range of millions. Is this accurate formula?

Your formula is wrong in a few places.

Thanks to Eric below who provided the simple replacement formula of;

((4 * vets) + exp) * displayed ability

But, I'll try explain the formula to you as simply as I can, in two parts.

The first part is to calculate a number needed in the second part.

((Number of vets x 4) + number of experts) divided by the maximum crew size.

So for example, 500 man sailor with 100 vets and 400 experts would be;

((100 x 4) + 400) / 500

= 1.6

Alternatively, if you click the recruit button on your sailor you can add together the percentages there and convert them into an integer if you know how.

80% + 80% + 0% = 160%, which would be 1.6. Much simpler, if you have the numbers available.

The next part is the actual TA calculation which is;

The displayed ability X the number we came up with above X current crew size of the sailor.

So if my above sailor had 2500 repair ability the equation would be;

2500 x 1.6 x 500 which = 2,000,000 and that is that example sailors true repair ability.

Note; this formula only provides the correct answer if the sailor is not missing any recruits.

If my formula is incorrect, why do both our formula come up with the same answer? As much as I would like to try compare the differences in our formulas there are now 2 working versions of the formula in this thread so I wont. Suffice it to say, for the formula to calculate TA in my post, read the bold. It's not confusing, it's just more comprehensive.

The max sailors part is only important if you dont have enough recruits, but if you have a full crew then the modifier that section applies is 1, which changes nothing. It's still important that it's there so that the formula works at ALL times.

Your formula for normal purposes is infact identical to mine in its execution, without one set of brackets which could potentially cause someone who doesn't understand the formula to come up with a MUCH higher result than would be correct.

I wasn't trying to confuse anyone, I believed in MMSs ability to comprehend what I wrote and so I tried to be thorough and provide an explanation to how the formula worked in a simple format. That said, I have just realised I accidently removed a line I wrote trying to improve the format of the post which could be confusing...

Okay, I've examined my formula, which is quite a deal more extensive than the one I provided for accounting for lacking recruits. Maximum crew is correct, if you multiply by current crew then you reduce the ability by more than you should, because if 10% of the crew is recruits and they are all absent, that doesnt reduce the total ability by 10%, it reduces the contribution provided by vets and experts by 10%, multiplicatively, not additively. 90% contribtion with 10% of the crew absent is not 80%, but 81%.

Multiplying the result by the maximum crew in the first part of the equation only results in the total contribution gained by vets and experts, not the contribution lost by recruits. That is what the second mention does, it reduces the ability by the amount lost multiplicatively.

My TA equation IN FULL is as follows.

Ability * maximum crew * percentage

Where percentage is...

(((vets*4)/max crew)+(experts/max crew))*(1-((max crew-(vets+experts))/max crew))

For example. A 500 man sailor with 450 experts who contribute 90% and 50 absent recruits. The recruits make up 10% of the crew, but their absence multipicatively reduces 90% to 81%, not 80%. Or in other words, 10% of 90%, not 10% from 90%.

(((0*4)/500)+(450/500))*(1-((500-(0+450))/500))= 0.81 or 81%

Lets say my example sailor has 400 ability. That makes his true ability;

400 * 0.81 * 500 = 162,000

I'll be honest, I've completely forgotten what my point was. What I do know from this though is that your first equation (TA = (4*vets + exp) * displayed ability * (current sailors / max sailors)) is actually wrong, and I genuinely am not sure where because I'm getting fatigued with math. But, it does result in the wrong number...

Erm. Yeah. My original equation is still wrong somewhere... but I don't know how to correct it for use in ANY and ALL circumstances without replacing the first part with my above percentage equation. I need to convert it to your inprecisely named all purpose formula, which I will do once I've posted this.

EDIT: Okay you were right, my original post was overly long and potentially confusing. Thank you.

Infact, thank you also for the non-hostile attitude. The number of confrontational posts I seem to attract is pretty frustrating.