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    09. 06. 2011 21:03


demonskier
So,  I have established that fighter ability caps and that if you plan to get more than like 140 vets you shouldn't class.  My next question is that because fighter ability caps will a lvl 120 +12 or +11 boosted have the same true ability as an EB fighter. (assume same classing and experts and vets)  

 

  • Re : fighter ability question

    09. 06. 2011 21:31


richardphat
Both will not have the same true ability even though they are capped.

And nothing has confirm whether there are caps or not. But a fighter with 200 vets even if they are cap will beat your lvl fighter with 140 vets even if they are capped.

Simply, the 200 vets has way greater defense and you will need less microing to win.

  • Re : fighter ability question

    09. 06. 2011 22:28


demonskier
Well I know that if the vets are different there will be a difference I'm more curious about the difference in base...

  • Re : fighter ability question

    09. 07. 2011 00:27


OttoReinhold
Originally Posted by demonskier
I'm more curious about the difference in base...

Yeah well, there is no difference once the ability is capped. The higher base only helps you hitting the cap earlier. If defense is uncapped though the sailor with higher true ability will obviously be better.

  • Re : fighter ability question

    09. 07. 2011 07:16


LILITALY5179
Honestly.. at higher levels... ability is near useless. It comes down to who can micro their fighters better.

  • Re : fighter ability question

    09. 07. 2011 18:50


CommanderR
Looks at ( o.o) alpha's base 2 US FP that self micro

  • Re : fighter ability question

    09. 07. 2011 21:14


LILITALY5179
Originally Posted by CommanderR

Looks at ( o.o) alpha's base 2 US FP that self micro


I beat his fighters yesterday because I micro'd. His fighters are base 12 and/or elite with 200+ vets each.
He has a Seaman with over 200 vets aswell

I have base 10's and 11's with 150 vets. No seaman.

(my theory has always been that seamen are useless because at high lvls their boost doesnt make a difference.)

I.E. stats dont matter at high lvl (we both have 120 fighters) it's all about microing.

  • Re : fighter ability question

    09. 07. 2011 22:26


CaptianAlpha
Originally Posted by LILITALY5179

Originally Posted by CommanderR

Looks at ( o.o) alpha's base 2 US FP that self micro


I beat his fighters yesterday because I micro'd. His fighters are base 12 and/or elite with 200+ vets each.
He has a Seaman with over 200 vets aswell

I have base 10's and 11's with 150 vets. No seaman.

(my theory has always been that seamen are useless because at high lvls their boost doesnt make a difference.)

I.E. stats dont matter at high lvl (we both have 120 fighters) it's all about microing.


True italy. I just use my seaman as a restore/rep at this level.
But yes Italy you did beat a couple of my dead waves the ones i forget about when i launch a new wave. But yes at 110-120 you don't see any change in fighter ability or progression. It's micro what it comes down to. And Yes i use Base 5 no B/VE. But yes Italy I think your theory is correct. Now time for some testing.

  • Re : fighter ability question

    09. 08. 2011 03:20


ljsevern
Originally Posted by LILITALY5179

Originally Posted by CommanderR

Looks at ( o.o) alpha's base 2 US FP that self micro


I beat his fighters yesterday because I micro'd. His fighters are base 12 and/or elite with 200+ vets each.
He has a Seaman with over 200 vets aswell

I have base 10's and 11's with 150 vets. No seaman.

(my theory has always been that seamen are useless because at high lvls their boost doesnt make a difference.)

I.E. stats dont matter at high lvl (we both have 120 fighters) it's all about microing.


That is still no reason to not maximise your ability. I.e. Elites clssed as just fighter with max vets (Vets are easiest to get on fighters as they don't lose them).

Stats do matter at high level, but not as much as Micro. But they do make a difference, saying otherwise is just naive.

And with regards to a cap, the last I heard from the GM's is that there wasn't one (which is why we have huge problems with US outclassing all.

And Seaman aren't useless with uncapped sailors ;)

  • Re : fighter ability question

    09. 08. 2011 07:01


Sonlirain
Basically.

Fighter offense (firepower and the ability to oneshot other FPs) is capped to a certain level.
Their defense (that protects them from being oneshot or even getting damaged at all) is NOT capped.
Basically US FPs can survive attacks that would turn other nations FPs into smoking husks.

HOWEVER.

How come US FPs are considered overpowered if MN FPs are only marginally worse and have the same Fighter growth?
Shouldn't MN be overpowered as well?

  • Re : fighter ability question

    09. 08. 2011 07:36


LILITALY5179
@Lukas sure.. there is no reason to not get insane stats on your fighters if there is no cap. However my point is that microing can overcome any ability disadvantage. Also, at high levels the ability boost that seamen provide isnt that much to be quite honest. Again, it can be overcome with microing.

@sonlirain US fighters are godly because they hit hard, are flying tanks, and are faster than an F18 (not literally but you get the idea). Meaning they can basically massacre anything else in the air.

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