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  • Increased IJN submarine torpedo dud rate

    11. 26. 2011 09:06


Megalodon
I have been observing the dud rates of IJN torps for the pass week ang according to what i see the IJN submarine torpedo dud rate was increased as well as they nerfed the damage , I can still remember  that any BB5 can only withstand 8 direct hits from the  IJN submarine torpedo but so far  it seems like even if the torps explode at max range  it does no damage,   Historically in NF, one of the few things that IJN excells is torpedo,  in beta days the  KItakami was feared because of this but through the course of the game's history they nerfed it almost to oblivion.  From the looks of what I am observing,  I think the IJN submarine torpedo is bound to follow  the way of the IJN surface  ships torpedo.

 

  • Re : Increased IJN submarine torpedo dud rate

    11. 27. 2011 03:04


zanon
i haven't seen this . the duds where always there some times all 8 go under some times just a few , to me just as random as event drops.

the kita to me is just nerfed in torp exp . the sima is nerfed; i think i used to be able to use the 4x lvl 56 now the 3x lvl 48 but than again u can still one shot a bb6 with that .( he probably didn't have the right armor set up)

all torpedo exp is so low u should see it as a charity and play it for fun.

i am hoping for the day i get exp for dmg again

  • Re : Increased IJN submarine torpedo dud rate

    11. 28. 2011 06:11


Megalodon
Originally Posted by zanon

i haven't seen this . the duds where always there some times all 8 go under some times just a few , to me just as random as event drops.

the kita to me is just nerfed in torp exp . the sima is nerfed; i think i used to be able to use the 4x lvl 56 now the 3x lvl 48 but than again u can still one shot a bb6 with that .( he probably didn't have the right armor set up)

all torpedo exp is so low u should see it as a charity and play it for fun.

i am hoping for the day i get exp for dmg again



Duds are acceptable in theory but 8 torpedoes exploding at max range and not doing any damage even to a CA is bad. I will say that it is probably just a fluke but happening more than 3x in one day is considered not a fluke scientifically. I think NF should just activate the hyper torpedo line of the IJN torper for they are supposed to be the line that has the equivalent of proximity torps of KM. For the case of IJN surface torpedoes they did not only nerfed torpedo experience but they also nerfed torpedo damage as well The damage nerf happend earlier than the experience nerf being that the damage nerf happend during the last few months of open beta. In NFNA the torpedoes of all the original 4 nations are at just 70-75% of its damage I just don't know if the same can be said for the 2 new nations. Compare it to other NF servers and you will see what I mean. During the 1st few months after NFNA changed from beta to what it was now there are already few dedicated Kita pilots and I am one of them. And most of the players that used torpedo ships either quit the line and moved to gunships or quit the game entirely.

The reason for the damage nerf was supposed to be the solution when most BB players of the time wont allow more than 4 kitas in the game because of the damage that the torps. This is the main reason why skilled Kitakami pilots were feared during those days, after the nerf most of these kita dedicated players just stopped playing while a few of them moved to gunships.

  • Re : Increased IJN submarine torpedo dud rate

    11. 30. 2011 07:16


zanon
some people have mean ca set ups , have that was well, you go like , huh!?! , nothing! . lesson: ca got no sonar , good defense and is fast leave it if there is other fish next to in the ocean.

i also was a tw in beta,restarted a new kita line after paytoplay ...he became so fat that he was banished to the gun line and order was given to recruit a new slim and hansom BO for the kita and i still have him i have 2 kita's on nebraska and use him i still got a sima in HQ (im selling it before it runs out of stocks again :P and u got to play millions for it :P )

i also have the ijn ss4 and an ijn tw cv . u got to stay the most hated ship class in the game right?

if i have option i prefer to torp some ships over others and i L2 is my nr1 pick. ^^

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and i think the need to remove duds from the game and fix torp exp, getting from ss1 to ss5 in an ss is is a joke at best

  • Re : Increased IJN submarine torpedo dud rate

    11. 30. 2011 22:44


GHHalley
Mega,

I haven't seen any real changes with my SS4. Even 7 months ago, I knew of BB5's and 6's which could withstand at least 10 torp hits -- it all depends upon their bulge and crew.

Also, I believe duds go up depending upon the other ships BO. I don't know this for sure, but there seems to be a correlation.

I do believe the torp dud rate is rediculous, but have come to accept it.

  • Re : Increased IJN submarine torpedo dud rate

    12. 13. 2011 00:24


zanon
i do not except 8 out of 8 torps to be duds

  • Re : Increased IJN submarine torpedo dud rate

    12. 25. 2011 13:31


Texan
hi Megalodon not sure if you remember me?...besides the point. He is right not only were Kitas feared, but simas and even fubus. Tws were the bane of Navyfield. After coming back recently, i find my old kita to be a joke as with the entire torp line. Submarines have always been historically feared for good reason and to nerf them further makes no sense. as it stands gunships can shoot blocks shots dead on and if you want to argue historically that was impossible. (on the flipside of the argument this is a game, in which case if you are to nerf Tw's and subs then do the same for every other ship class)

  • Re : Increased IJN submarine torpedo dud rate

    01. 06. 2012 10:36


Megalodon
Originally Posted by Texan

hi Megalodon not sure if you remember me?...besides the point. He is right not only were Kitas feared, but simas and even fubus. Tws were the bane of Navyfield. After coming back recently, i find my old kita to be a joke as with the entire torp line. Submarines have always been historically feared for good reason and to nerf them further makes no sense. as it stands gunships can shoot blocks shots dead on and if you want to argue historically that was impossible. (on the flipside of the argument this is a game, in which case if you are to nerf Tw's and subs then do the same for every other ship class)


I remember you very well Texan :) I think it is high time that NF remove the nerfs of the torpedoes. I think the community has now evolved where they can readily dodge torps, unlike the days when they just blindly charge in irregardless of torpedo walls in the way (with a few notable exceptions ehehehe ) but in the end at least IMO the torp walls as well as any other torpedoes will weed out those who are experienced and those are noobs or just playing dumb :)

  • Re : Increased IJN submarine torpedo dud rate

    01. 06. 2012 15:33


HeeroYuy
I've tried playing sub as IJN and its very fustrating, seems when i do sub v sub combat one torp will explode if im lucky but the rest will just go on by. Historically IJN had some of the most feared torps out there. Seems KM subs rule the seas due to their proxy torps. The torps i fire just seem to have a 50% + failure rate.

  • Re : Increased IJN submarine torpedo dud rate

    01. 07. 2012 12:11


seagullvmk
agreed. I've been noticing more duds with my SS4 than before...

  • Re : Increased IJN submarine torpedo dud rate

    01. 08. 2012 19:19


fallsblvd
Ya the dud rate is probably a little higher since SS5s were released. I have heard some KM subers complain that their rate is higher now too. Luckily a dud KM torp can sometimes proxy on the opposite side of the enemy target. This issue is really most damaging to the IJN SS3 as it only has 4 front tubes so duding a full salvo is more likely. My SS4 has the potential for a 1 shot kill so 30-50% duds can be accounted for.

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