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Need help with IJN CV, I totally screwed up
01. 15. 2012 18:12
Issan
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I'll try to make this as simple as I can: I quit NF a year or two ago because I always had that 10minute frozen screen but still sound lag.
Anywho, I managed to totally screw over my CV, which is the only thing I went for. I was being stupid
and never before playing the game, didn't care and messed everything up. Now the lag stopped and,
not being overrun by school anymore, can play. I'd like to know what I can do to help fix up my problems
and become a good CV because frankly, I am really, really bad.
I currently have a Ryujo with:
level 53 Operator ( yellow nametag)
level 50-ish TB
leve 50-ish Elite DB (gift from friend)
level 50-ish FP
Sorry, cba to post the fine details on each person, but if requested, will post.
Anyway, if anyone can suggest what I should to do help me in my quest for getting actually decent at CV
please post away with your own suggestions or any useful guides to steer me into a clear path.
Problems I am having:
-Slow plane loading time, where others get planes up in 10 seconds
-Can only load 7 planes at a time ( dunno if this is default or something I am missing )
-DB rarely hit target, tried manual and automatic DBing
-TB rarely hit target, always get shot down
-I don't really know what to do with my fighter pilots...
Any help is VERY appreciative, and sorry for the long post! I am actually very serious and am not
some new person with one line of text asking for some help in some foreign language, unreadable
by a human being.
And if anyone is wondering, I also have a Mogami 1944 I think with some gunners but again totally screwed up
so I don't know what to do with it anymore.
~Thanks for reading this extremely long post,
Issan
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Re : Need help with IJN CV, I totally screwed up
01. 15. 2012 18:57
Sonlirain
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All right...
First of all...
Sell that TB pilot.
Seriously TBs are BAD.
I leveled TB pilots that are now lvl 61-71 and they SUCK... BADLY.
A double launch from a CV3 does not even guarantee you a kill against another CV3 because of all the bulge CVs are packing these days and even for ships witth little/no bulge they will do stupidly small ammounts of damage becasue 0.2" of belt stops 50% of torp damage...
In my case hitting all 16 torps in the middle of a L2 gave me 22k attack.
Now depending on what would you like to do in the CV you have a choice of going either.
BW
FW
Balanced (4-4 or just about any other combination)
So level more sailors because you will need more than 1 pilot of each type to serve any function properly.
Personally i have 6 FPS and 2 DBS (whom i don't use because i place engineers instead) but going 5 FP 3 DB is also fair game imo
Also how did you screw up the gunners?
DP gunners promoted at level?
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Re : Need help with IJN CV, I totally screwed up
01. 15. 2012 19:09
Dea7h
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for your CV6 you need 12 sailors
BO - you can ghost it , leave him with no sailor or the lowest possible ammount or you can leave them as now to gain bonus repair/sd
2 ship slot - you can put 2 gunners to use hh,phh or guns/put 2 AA gunners to AA nearby enemy planes/put 2 repair.you can put more like a restore but its better at high lvl one of this options .
8 pilot slot - since IJN DB are one of the best , you can put 2-4 DB pilots and 6-4 FP or be a bomberwhore and put 8 DB , or be a Fighterwhore and put 8Fighter pilots. many options. keep your FP at the same lvl to not suffer when you get t4 ( lv 100) and you cant use all your pilots or stay with t3 till your fighters get t4 lvl.
Also you can have an scout or 2 for FL/HA but for GB its better only use combinations of fp/db.
Extra support slot - you can put an Eng/Rep/Seamen/restore.
for TB , it have a good defense against AAW when you reach higher lvls , but dont do much dmg like UK/US . its more flexible then DB , its easier to hit small ships and can hit dived SS.
in the junyo ,for better load time , you need to have more pilots to load 3/2/2 ,2/2/2/1 ,4/3 , 3/3/1...
when you reach higher lv you can use better CV and load more plane ( +1 for every tier : cv3=8 cv4=9 , cv5=10, PCV=11 , CV6=12)
fighter : they have low firepower , low defense , but are fast , so try get a 10/11-aircraft and 12fighter stat
DB: the base dont matter at higher lvl because bomber stat provide only AAW defense ( those automatic shots from ships ) but at low lvs , a +12 bomber stat will help alot
TB: you need +12 bomber stat for max your defense against AAW , they are much more exposed than DB to AAW .
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Re : Need help with IJN CV, I totally screwed up
01. 16. 2012 02:39
Obergrattler
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Originally Posted by Dea7h
fighter : they have low firepower , low defense , but are fast , so try get a 10/11-aircraft and 12fighter stat
DB: the base dont matter at higher lvl because bomber stat provide only AAW defense ( those automatic shots from ships ) but at low lvs , a +12 bomber stat will help alot
TB: you need +12 bomber stat for max your defense against AAW , they are much more exposed than DB to AAW .
I think you missed a patch.
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Re : Need help with IJN CV, I totally screwed up
01. 16. 2012 06:31
Issan
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Sonlirain: They're heavy gunners but I decided to go CV so I messed up my Mogami.
As for everyone else, I love all the help you are giving me!
I'll be sure to start up 5 more fighter pilots, and 1 more DB. (I think I have to start up a neutral ship to do this, right?)
And I'll be sure to sell that TB aswell, since I think its pretty useless too. (if anyone can help me sell it, please let me know)
I think thats about it, I just have to get rid of all the recruits on my BO
Thanks again for all the help! If you guys have any more suggestions please let me know.
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Re : Need help with IJN CV, I totally screwed up
01. 16. 2012 08:28
Sonlirain
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Keep the recruits on the BO.
Personally i just let them become experts and try promoting them to veterans whenever i get the chance.
My CV BO has 190 vets now and more SD and repair is always good.
It's slow but all it costs you is some space you would use on bulge anyway.
Heavy gunners are ok for a CV (a bit less since the patch that let's DP gunners use Hedgehogs) but you can use them when you decide to start a BB crew. I actually leveled heavy gunners on my CV to lvl 80 and i'm now happy using them on Super Yamato.
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Re : Need help with IJN CV, I totally screwed up
01. 16. 2012 09:42
Iced8383
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Originally Posted by Issan
-Slow plane loading time, where others get planes up in 10 seconds
-Can only load 7 planes at a time ( dunno if this is default or something I am missing )
Are you saying that you're launching 7 planes off one pilot?
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Re : Need help with IJN CV, I totally screwed up
01. 16. 2012 10:22
Sonlirain
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Originally Posted by Iced8383
Originally Posted by Issan
-Slow plane loading time, where others get planes up in 10 seconds
-Can only load 7 planes at a time ( dunno if this is default or something I am missing )
Are you saying that you're launching 7 planes off one pilot?
He already stated that he has only: 1 DB 1 TB 1 FP He also said that he will raise more of them.
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Re : Need help with IJN CV, I totally screwed up
01. 16. 2012 11:10
Issan
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Originally Posted by Sonlirain
Keep the recruits on the BO.
Personally i just let them become experts and try promoting them to veterans whenever i get the chance.
My CV BO has 190 vets now and more SD and repair is always good.
It's slow but all it costs you is some space you would use on bulge anyway.
Heavy gunners are ok for a CV (a bit less since the patch that let's DP gunners use Hedgehogs) but you can use them when you decide to start a BB crew. I actually leveled heavy gunners on my CV to lvl 80 and i'm now happy using them on Super Yamato.
Ok will keep the recruits and let them become experts. I guess I'll try putting on my gunners so I can shoot down little stuff that comes by my way. And yeah, I launch 7 planes off of one pilot...never learned better Will get on starting those bombers later on today! EDIT: Just a quick question, so I don't manage to screw everything up again. Say right now I make 5 FP soldiers and another DB soldier ( all with +11 or more in their potential)....how would I exactly level these guys up? Since if I put them on my ship right now in the support they don't gain any experience. And if I put them on a tiny new neutral ship, how will I go on training them when they level up?
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Re : Need help with IJN CV, I totally screwed up
01. 16. 2012 14:31
Sonlirain
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Well sadly you have to level them slowly by putting them on ships 15 levels higher thna them at most.
I'd suggest using Yubari till about lvl then play a little in the Oyodo and use the lonely DBer till they can start using their respective aircraft and then start using a real CV and abuse locals as long as you can because your fighters will get murdered by everything excluding scouts (and including higher level bombers).
Also you might need some boosts and vet/expert packs.
They are usefull for bombers and nearly necesary for fighters.
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Re : Need help with IJN CV, I totally screwed up
01. 17. 2012 19:25
mkzblaster
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If you can you may want to get elites for your fighters weather by credit trade or olive or just buying the level 12s but fighter ability is not capped if I remember right so there is a real advantage for +13 all the way up to 120. Also for your fighters you need to decide if you want a seaman on your cv. if so again the elite fighter based seaman is really nice for a fighter heavy cv.
As for leveling them If you have a sonar man you can put him on a cl and go kill ss
and if that fails you can run your gunners on a cl with the trip 6" D's with AA rounds. That is a great way to get experts and good xp. Golden angle is 27 and aim for the planes shadows.
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