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  • AAW quick test.

    01. 19. 2012 21:43


richardphat
My 15k+ aa whore gaming experience tells me it's still broken. (aaw ability)
Knowing that planes in aa mission are weak against AAW, if there was something "partially patched" I would have blatantly
figured it out.

I can repeat the test many time, even for the freaks that want statistic. Only comment is, don't bother until they really fix it.


And this is my fleet leader account.


Whoever is asking credibility on such obvious test needs to stop trying to understand, or argue,etc.

 

  • Re : AAW quick test.

    01. 19. 2012 21:45


Eradicator1
Now do the same test with a sodak

  • Re : AAW quick test.

    01. 19. 2012 21:47


richardphat
Using a sodak to show off or using a sodak to show that AAW ability works?

  • Re : AAW quick test.

    01. 20. 2012 04:52


Eradicator1
I think a test with the sodak is important because it is one of the ships that actually does kill planes in that mission by default. We can test if AAW stat affects how many planes are shot down by adding or removing aa gunners.

In the test under both circumstances, the H44 failed to shoot down any planes. This may be because the aaw stat does not meet the threshold required to down planes, even with aaw gunners.

I would do it myself but unfortunately I don't own any US sailors nor a Sodak.

  • Re : AAW quick test.

    01. 20. 2012 05:06


ljsevern
Could always do it on the test server

  • Re : AAW quick test.

    01. 20. 2012 05:26


Obergrattler
I didn't find your testing method significant because you didn't actually shoot down something. AAW comes in burst so it needs time to shoot planes down. And I wanted the planes to fly by on low altitude.

I then tested myself placing a SY with BO only and in the second testing row with BO and DPgunners. I placed the ship two ship lenghts away from the dummyship, perpendicular, to simulate real conditions.

I ran 8 testrooms for each setup, wanted to do 10 but wasn't necessary, and simply added the shotdown credits.
The total result for BO only is 947, for BO and DPgunners 951.

The difference is probably statistical inconsistency, or the effect is so small it is negligible. Or the the AAW effect is different in testrooms and battlerooms, which I don't believe. Can't think of more possibilities.

  • Re : AAW quick test.

    01. 20. 2012 10:04


richardphat
@Obber
Because the test isn't meant to be that significant. It is meant for people who AA alot can see the obvious fail in the stickied thread.

Also, it's exactly because of your test and my test proved about the partially patch thing. That is why it can't be partially activated.
Seriously, 120 aa gunners and the results is "that tiny" if it were to be working?
Or even, IJN with DP gunners and no difference?


There is probably no difference in battle and mission rooms.Yesterday, I have played with my emerald and emden and it's nothing news. The only thing I have noticed few weeks or during events. People mass burn their pilots and some of them don't bother to fully experts them back. Which explains why some high tier fighters get slaughtered.




@erad.
No, the planes in the mission are weak. H44 AAW is enough to kill it. You don't want to take a ship with godlike AAW or put in some critical position just to screw up the test, nor something that does jack squat such as FF,SS AAW. You want something between them, which is why you should take KM,IJN, some UK ship and maybe some other exception.

Also, you can clearly see how the first mobs of planes get ricochet. Those ricochet tells you alot if you ever paid attention.


edit

  • Re : AAW quick test.

    01. 20. 2012 12:06


Sonlirain
I tried it myself with a SY.

BO only first time and full crew (with DP gunners leveled ASAP).

Both times they failed to kill anything but the dummy ship managed to kill 4 both times.

I started in the upper left title and didn't move.

  • Re : AAW quick test.

    01. 20. 2012 13:26


Eradicator1
Originally Posted by richardphat

@Obber
Because the test isn't meant to be that significant. It is meant for people who AA alot can see the obvious fail in the stickied thread.

Also, it's exactly because of your test and my test proved about the partially patch thing. That is why it can't be partially activated.
Seriously, 120 aa gunners and the results is "that tiny" if it were to be working?
Or even, IJN with DP gunners and no difference?


There is probably no difference in battle and mission rooms.Yesterday, I have played with my emerald and emden and it's nothing news. The only thing I have noticed few weeks or during events. People mass burn their pilots and some of them don't bother to fully experts them back. Which explains why some high tier fighters get slaughtered.




@erad.
No, the planes in the mission are weak. H44 AAW is enough to kill it. You don't want to take a ship with godlike AAW or put in some critical position just to screw up the test, nor something that does jack squat such as FF,SS AAW. You want something between them, which is why you should take KM,IJN, some UK ship and maybe some other exception.

Also, you can clearly see how the first mobs of planes get ricochet. Those ricochet tells you alot if you ever paid attention.


edit

At least take a ship that shoots at least one plane down so that we can have quantifiable data.

  • Re : AAW quick test.

    01. 20. 2012 15:28


richardphat
If you want a test with quantifiable data then I suggest you find someone else.

This test is not meant for quantified result but to show the obvious. This test are made for the people that are experienced enough to distinguish something "activated" or not.

  • Re : AAW quick test.

    01. 20. 2012 16:25


Obergrattler
Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by richardphat

@Obber
Because the test isn't meant to be that significant. It is meant for people who AA alot can see the obvious fail in the stickied thread.

Also, it's exactly because of your test and my test proved about the partially patch thing. That is why it can't be partially activated.
Seriously, 120 aa gunners and the results is "that tiny" if it were to be working?
Or even, IJN with DP gunners and no difference?


There is probably no difference in battle and mission rooms.Yesterday, I have played with my emerald and emden and it's nothing news. The only thing I have noticed few weeks or during events. People mass burn their pilots and some of them don't bother to fully experts them back. Which explains why some high tier fighters get slaughtered.




@erad.
No, the planes in the mission are weak. H44 AAW is enough to kill it. You don't want to take a ship with godlike AAW or put in some critical position just to screw up the test, nor something that does jack squat such as FF,SS AAW. You want something between them, which is why you should take KM,IJN, some UK ship and maybe some other exception.

Also, you can clearly see how the first mobs of planes get ricochet. Those ricochet tells you alot if you ever paid attention.


edit

At least take a ship that shoots at least one plane down so that we can have quantifiable data.


Umm, that's exactly what I did. The result is that there is no relevant AAW effect. We have been fed s...a brown substance. The so called mythbuster fact is just wrong or something along a 0.06% increase if I close both eyes and let it pass.

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