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  • Double or Triple the ascent/descent speed of planes.

    01. 25. 2012 19:43

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Maistral
The title.

Seems people tolerate NF Fixer. Since the AA cannot be resolved properly, then I'd like to attempt to "fix" it in another POV.

By doubling or even tripling the ascent/descent speed, they should be able to keep up with AA's speed in changing angles while firing continuously.

 

  • Re : Double or Triple the ascent/descent speed of planes.

    01. 26. 2012 00:37


Greenwings
So, that entire rant of anti-fixer was a self-serving complaint.
But in any case I support "this" idea because of the already inherent ability of all planes to automatically perform these actions as can be seen with automated attack commands. It is the manual elevation controls which seem overly limited.

Since so many players support the idea of a manual attack systems over more automated methods, this is clearly a point of logical advancement. Although I have witnessed players able to quickly dive their fighters, I never really learned how. (YES I did identify them as Fighters over Torpedo Bombers)

Recc

  • Re : Double or Triple the ascent/descent speed of planes.

    01. 26. 2012 06:56


Maistral
Originally Posted by Greenwings

So, that entire rant of anti-fixer was a self-serving complaint.


No. That was actually directed to those AA noobs that are too unskilled to be able to change angles while rapidly firing.

Since the most of the population tolerates the fixer (thus the reason there are less and less CVs attempting to play), I tried to approach the "fix" the other way around - that is increasing the speed of the planes' altitude change. More effort on the CV player, but at least now it's really "doable" to avoid AA.

I'm not sure, but from what I see the speed of a plane is directly proportional to its descent/ascent speed (thus T3-4 fighters and T5 scouts can easily ascend and descend). Maybe that's the reason why torpedo bombers, dive bombers, T1-2 fighters and T1-4 scouts' ascent/descent speed sucks.

And thanks for the recc.

  • Re : Double or Triple the ascent/descent speed of planes.

    01. 26. 2012 10:03


Bart133
Originally Posted by Maistral

No. That was actually directed to those AA noobs that are too unskilled to be able to change angles while rapidly firing.

Pressing spacebar fast =/= skill.


I don't mind the idea in principle.

  • Re : Double or Triple the ascent/descent speed of planes.

    01. 26. 2012 14:35


Lionel2
recc

  • Re : Double or Triple the ascent/descent speed of planes.

    01. 26. 2012 17:24


normpearii
Recommended. At least someone where knows how to think outside the box.

  • Re : Double or Triple the ascent/descent speed of planes.

    01. 28. 2012 03:23


Maistral
Le bump.

  • Re : Double or Triple the ascent/descent speed of planes.

    01. 28. 2012 04:28


ljsevern
Hmmm. I honestly think it would be better to have a stat that determined it, but I guess it is related to speed.

I'm not sure there is a huge issue with the balance between AA and Planes. After watching and playing in many of the fleet league games, when a CV usually faces 2/3 PCA's and 1/2 BB's, they can usually avoid AA fairly well by raising and lowering their planes in an unpredictable manner. Even with players using NF Fixer.

  • Re : Double or Triple the ascent/descent speed of planes.

    01. 29. 2012 08:47


Maistral
Originally Posted by ljsevern

Hmmm. I honestly think it would be better to have a stat that determined it, but I guess it is related to speed.

I'm not sure there is a huge issue with the balance between AA and Planes. After watching and playing in many of the fleet league games, when a CV usually faces 2/3 PCA's and 1/2 BB's, they can usually avoid AA fairly well by raising and lowering their planes in an unpredictable manner. Even with players using NF Fixer.


Yeah, some planes are quite fast enough in ascending and descending. I myself have no problem flying over three rapid-fire moltkes with my UK T4s. Some are really notoriously slow tho - my torpedo bombers get very easily raped in that kind of scenario.

I agree, there should be a dedicated stat for that.

  • Re : Double or Triple the ascent/descent speed of planes.

    01. 29. 2012 13:03


ljsevern
Originally Posted by Maistral

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Hmmm. I honestly think it would be better to have a stat that determined it, but I guess it is related to speed.

I'm not sure there is a huge issue with the balance between AA and Planes. After watching and playing in many of the fleet league games, when a CV usually faces 2/3 PCA's and 1/2 BB's, they can usually avoid AA fairly well by raising and lowering their planes in an unpredictable manner. Even with players using NF Fixer.


Yeah, some planes are quite fast enough in ascending and descending. I myself have no problem flying over three rapid-fire moltkes with my UK T4s. Some are really notoriously slow tho - my torpedo bombers get very easily raped in that kind of scenario.

I agree, there should be a dedicated stat for that.


Remember though, bombers are only either T1 or T2.

  • Re : Double or Triple the ascent/descent speed of planes.

    01. 30. 2012 06:34


Maistral
Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by Maistral

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Hmmm. I honestly think it would be better to have a stat that determined it, but I guess it is related to speed.

I'm not sure there is a huge issue with the balance between AA and Planes. After watching and playing in many of the fleet league games, when a CV usually faces 2/3 PCA's and 1/2 BB's, they can usually avoid AA fairly well by raising and lowering their planes in an unpredictable manner. Even with players using NF Fixer.


Yeah, some planes are quite fast enough in ascending and descending. I myself have no problem flying over three rapid-fire moltkes with my UK T4s. Some are really notoriously slow tho - my torpedo bombers get very easily raped in that kind of scenario.

I agree, there should be a dedicated stat for that.


Remember though, bombers are only either T1 or T2.


Oh. So that means they'll be faster the higher the tiers go?

The way it is now for TBs (well, at least my UK, USN and SN (fail) TB planes) they go slower as the tiers increase. Since altitude changing speed is apparently correlated with the planes' movement speed (unless you guys are gonna change the current scheme), aren't they gonna change altitudes slower? :\

I hope you guys take these into account should you guys start with the new bomber tiers :D

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