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  • Can BB players help Cv's

    07. 13. 2011 19:17

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benjamin1579
Can BB players let there CV's know what they need. Sight over a particular ship or FC.
So i've tried this a few times by asking my side " North let me know what you need and ill send planes" or near the end of the game and everyones spread out. 
I usually get the response that I must be a noob CV player because i should know what to do.
But due to there being so much going on and your trying to provide FC for your side plus sight it can become a little hard and easy to miss enemy planes or sight over all ships.
I know this may annoy people but if they let cv's know more it would help a great deal.
I try and let cv players know what i need when playing BB's and most of the time they provide sight fairly quickly.

Thanks and look forward to any different points of view.

 

  • Re : Can BB players help Cv's

    07. 14. 2011 13:06


clerick50
You know, it's funny because I have both a BB and CV crew and whenever i'm on my BB, it's so rare to find someone who actually knows wat they are doing. And whenever on i'm CV, on the best recent thing jus happened. I was putting light over at least half of the map (My FPs can only go so far..) and we're losing. So i decided well ok plan B, go help the other side. I did and whenever i light up north, the BB goes south and whenever i light south, they change their freakin' minds and start shooting north. =.=' I AM PISSED.

  • Re : Can BB players help Cv's

    07. 14. 2011 14:39


nunki
Originally Posted by heatrr
Originally Posted by Edmund
I agree that BB and CV should cooperate, and should let CV know where planes are needed for incoming bombers, sight, etc. People should not complain about CVs being useless if they don't say anything to the CV; much like voting, if you don't vote you cant complain.


I call BS on what your saying.

Having played this game 2.5+ years, I cannot even begin how many games I have joined and played where right from the get go, BB players have communicated what they needed: eyes. clear the skies of enemy fighters and scouts, etc.

Has it helped? Hell, no.
Why?
Because the vast majority of CV players today are either inept, clueless, care about nothing but themselves, and are simply gimped by being bomber or DB whores and not even carrying fighters in GBs.

But yeah, you want me to communicate with them?
I do, but apparently it is difficult for them to read sign language on the other side of my screen. =.=

Until the lvl120 Scout fix, I will continue to use my 120 T5 scout in GBs and give sign language to most CVs.
PS. Unless I am playing with fleetmates or those CVs I can trust to communicate with, once the fix is made, I will still continue to scoff at most CVs...as they continue on their merry way as DB and TB whores. Besides, team play in GBs is near dead; it's play for yourself. Rinse and repeat.



Seriously I would not waste my fighters scouting or defending against bombers for people like you. Oh BTW most noob BB's will rush themselves to death so giving them sight would not make any different. So, I would rather have my fighters intercept incoming bombers

  • Re : Can BB players help Cv's

    07. 14. 2011 15:22


dekoyz
When using a CV just scout over the enemy CV and if its mugsy playing watch out for his 28 tbs

  • Re : Can BB players help Cv's

    07. 15. 2011 12:02


spuddies2
I agree we do all need to communicate more and give advice to the new players. So many times I've seen a team lose even though the map was lit up like a christmas tree with fighters all over the place, and BBs will say "Noob cvs". The competence of BBs these days is average at best (excluding a few select people) that even when they've had fighters the whole time they still cannot use the blind spots, and full vision to kill the other team, and lose.

So many games do I see BBs WITHOUT scouts. This is one of the most basic things a BB needs to do. Send out a plane, find enemy ships, shoot them. That is all a BB has to do. If you can't scout for yourself, why should a CV risk their own fighters (which are much more valuable) getting shot down by AA ships, and then watch the BBs fail to even kill something when it is scouted.

Another thing that most BBs don't seem to understand, is that if you have a CV with only tier 2 or low tier 3 planes, they will just get chewed up (unless they can micro very well). You can be in a BB2-3 and still be able to kill a BB5 fairly easily if you plan it right. But with a CV it is mostly on the planes/pilots. So when you see a low levelled CV struggling, don't be so quick to shout at them. It's not their fault they are outranked massively. Just give them some advice which could help them improve for next time.

I'm not saying it is only BBs to blame but these days they really do need their fare share of blame. But saying all this, there are still a number of cvs who honestly are poor. In these cases, nothing will help them, just play even harder to win and plan your attacks a little more.

If we could all just communicate a little more and help/warn each other if something is near or just give a little guidance the gameplay would be so much nicer.

  • Re : Can BB players help Cv's

    07. 18. 2011 14:25


alex3192
First off I must say that I am CV and BB player.


Originally Posted by doge
BB have to defend the cv,and cv make vision for BB range.


That isn't true in the slightest, BBs don't HAVE to defend CVs, nor do CVs HAVE to give sight.
But both do it because they know that the war is lost if the don't.

If I'm siting in my CV, and you say "**** CV SCOUT NORTH!", I will ignore you completely.
In fact, I might actually tell the other team where you are and ask them to, "remove", you.

Point is, ask politely, and 10 times out of 10 I will do my best to help.

  • Re : Can BB players help Cv's

    07. 22. 2011 20:10


CaptianAlpha
The only cooperation of anything in this game is Cv and SS. SS will kill AA Ships BBs wount. CV love subs on there teams.

  • Re : Can BB players help Cv's

    07. 22. 2011 20:21


CaptianAlpha
Also before all you guys start bashing each other. BB players sub players and CV players need to listen up.

First off: IT IS A CVS JOB TO GIVE SIGHT NO MATTER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE. I play a US FW CV. Its best to give your team sight. Even if some dumb*** says he was blind all game just till him you were giving sight.

Secondly: BBS IF YOU WANT SIGHT BE NICE AND KILL A AA SHIP OR A H44,H39 ECT BBS WITH AA. CVs love it when BBs and Subs kill AA Ships.

Third: Sub players do whatever you want.

Othernotes.Primary reasons for blindness
1. lots and lots of AA Ships
2. Fighting High Level fighters
3. CVs using locals
4. Retarded AA Ships Tking friendly planes.
5. Sub players not killing AA Ships.
6. Unintelligent BBs not killing AA Ships. (99% of the Navyfield Population)

SO YOU BBS SHOULD BE NICE AND KILL AA SHIPS. YES IT MAY BE OUT OF YOUR WAY BUT DONT BE A GREEDY STINGY STEREOTYPICAL as*hole BB.

That will be all thank you.

EDIT: Also for you noob CVs stop using locals around T2 level. Yes they will get slaughtered but its best to give you fight.

  • Re : Can BB players help Cv's

    07. 22. 2011 22:07


Bronzedeagle
i understand not all cv's have awsome fighter pilots and get shot down as they take off, but then again most cv's only carry 1 or 2 fighter pilots the rest are toprs or DB's. all thanks to blitz. well for those of us that are decent cv's we at least 5 fighter pilots and use smaller waves if our pilots arnt as good as the enemies. just too keep them in the skies and over the targets. hope other cv's head this advice as im using my bb and finding im dead before i see anything and its getting annoying as i can scout the map with my crappy planes now why cant u

  • Re : Can BB players help Cv's

    07. 27. 2011 08:31


nunki
Originally Posted by CaptianAlpha

Othernotes.Primary reasons for blindness
1. lots and lots of AA Ships
2. Fighting High Level fighters
3. CVs using locals
4. Retarded AA Ships Tking friendly planes.
5. Sub players not killing AA Ships.
6. Unintelligent BBs not killing AA Ships. (99% of the Navyfield Population)


I will add few more reasons

1. Fighters camp over enemy cv's and feed on incoming planes
2. Too many DB Whore and TB Whore.. Bombers don't give good sight.
3. BB's rush themselves to death with or without vision.

  • Re : Can BB players help Cv's

    07. 28. 2011 23:54


meta17
Originally Posted by CaptianAlpha

Also before all you guys start bashing each other. BB players sub players and CV players need to listen up.

First off: IT IS A CVS JOB TO GIVE SIGHT NO MATTER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE. I play a US FW CV. Its best to give your team sight. Even if some dumb*** says he was blind all game just till him you were giving sight.

Secondly: BBS IF YOU WANT SIGHT BE NICE AND KILL A AA SHIP OR A H44,H39 ECT BBS WITH AA. CVs love it when BBs and Subs kill AA Ships.

Third: Sub players do whatever you want.

Othernotes.Primary reasons for blindness
1. lots and lots of AA Ships
2. Fighting High Level fighters
3. CVs using locals
4. Retarded AA Ships Tking friendly planes.
5. Sub players not killing AA Ships.
6. Unintelligent BBs not killing AA Ships. (99% of the Navyfield Population)

SO YOU BBS SHOULD BE NICE AND KILL AA SHIPS. YES IT MAY BE OUT OF YOUR WAY BUT DONT BE A GREEDY STINGY STEREOTYPICAL as*hole BB.

That will be all thank you.

EDIT: Also for you noob CVs stop using locals around T2 level. Yes they will get slaughtered but its best to give you fight.



what this guy says.

I'm in a cv just got to lvl 80 with it.. lvl 80 pilots..

that being said not much i can do going up cv5,6 with 100+ fighters.. I'm sorry my 9 planes can not last long enough and get slaughtered half way accross the map to be able to give you sight. I tried but those poor lil worthless t3 low lvl fighters well they went on a suicide run for you and did not accomplish what i sent them out to do. now you must wait a another 30 secs for more to load. deal with it.

one more thing dont complain about sight and blind the whole game when your never in a cv. you want it so bad go get your own cv and be belittled all night for trying to play a game for fun. makes me not want to play... f**k it i'll be in my sub from now on sinking only non cv ships.

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