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IJN fighters VS other nations fighters
06. 16. 2013 10:52
deathwind17
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ok, i primarily noticed this against the USN ship line, but i know it comes into play for others as well, especially since in real life, the ZERO or SAM, was superior to most other fighters until 1945, I am a huge WWII buff, so much so that i am going to go to school to study it, my point being, is that the IJN fighters, tier 2 and above, are severely underpowered, ZEROs would routinely fight WILDCATS and win, in the game, 4 wildcats can decimate my squadron of 8 SAMs, and they are a more powerful version of the ZEROS, Im not saying make IJN fighters like gods in the game, but up until tier 3 or so, they need to be a scary threat to other players, dont change their armour, its reasonably correct, but the offensive power is severely underpowered, SDE prides itself on this game having realistic factors to it, but my fighters shouldn't be raped 30 seconds into the battle by planes that were historically inferior, it just doesnt make sense
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Re : IJN fighters VS other nations fighters
02. 23. 2014 17:05
tunned
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If you wanna beat others using your IJN fighter, just spend money and load your pilot's with veterans as much as you can.
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Re : IJN fighters VS other nations fighters
02. 23. 2014 21:11
ErwinJA
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Originally Posted by Overlord77
Alright, let's get something straight, while Zero's were really fast (In fact, pilots were told to BAIL OUT of the plane if they couldn't shake them, because they were fast, and let me tell you, FAST. My dad is a contractor, he has worked with WWII vets, and if they were in the Pacific theater, and pilots, if they were smaller planes, AKA, not a B-29 or something like that, they all said the same thing, bail out. If they could shake them, they would fight. After like, 5 minutes, bail out.) The ratio is probably exagerrated, by a lot. While in one on one, a zero could win, I think the percentage of victory for both planes is pretty darn close. Zero's did lose some superiority in 1943, and in 1945, zero's were suicide for the most part. No experinced pilots were left, so 1945 is obviously correct, but for the wrong reason. If you know a lot about WWII, think of the Great Marianis Turkey Shoot. I think I spelled "marianis" wrong, but whatever. :P The Japanese Air Arm lost 800 planes and pilots. I have no idea if the Air Arm was still around, but I whatever again. I think it was 800. Might have been 300. But they lost most of there experianced pilots then. NF wise, you might have bad fighter pilots. What level are your pilots, and please give the aircraft ability and fighter ability.
This is not entirely accurate. The Zero was not fast. In fact, for a fighter in general, it was comparatively slow, even when it first flew in 1939. The issue was rather that the F4F, which is the plane your anecdote covers, was one of the slowest "modern" fighters of the war - though this was a problem endemic to most carrier aircraft in 1939. It did lose less speed at low altitude than many contemporaries, but was never actually notably faster than them even at low altitude. In US service, the F4F was the only fighter to see significant action that wasn't significantly faster than the Zero at medium to high altitude (the others, like the P-36 and F2A, did not see much use), and few of the faster ones were slower at low altitude. Indeed, one of the standard tactics against the Zero in most other planes was to go vertical since the Zero simply couldn't keep up.
Against major opponents, the A6M was horribly outclassed when the F6F came in 1943, was never really a match for the F4U, P-51, P-47 or P-38, and never did more than break even against P-39 & P-40 - which is bad considering how poorly employed those often were.
Also, in a one-on-one fight between an F4F and A6M with equally skilled pilots, a draw wasn't unlikely either. While the F4F would be hard pressed to get a burst off, the A6M had a major issue as well: the 7.7mm machine guns were wholly inadequate against the rugged F4F (actually proven by a Japanese Ace), and the 20mm cannon had very limited ammunition (7-7.5 seconds worth, compared to 30+ for the machine guns). A number of planes (and pilots) were spared solely because the Japanese fighter simply couldn't do enough damage to bring them down.
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