Originally Posted by aingeal
Right.
Sorry but you've entered the "you annoy me" case. Not only you do an horrid thread necro on an horrible thread before, but you also come here and try to tell people how to play a game you obviously lack a good comprehension of. At least of the IJN nation and method of classing.
Always talk about a sailor base, never a classed ability growth. Quite simply, since all nations varies in their bonus and such, makes it much easier for people to know what the sailor looked like at creation.
DP Gunners CANNOT get a +29 rld base. EVER.
They go up to +24 ability if they are Boosted elites in reload, and they top that as armory sailor. Then accuracy and reload gets nerfed with AA-gunner classing while AAW gets boosted.
Which brings me to think you are saying AAW is DP gun reload. And its not. Its actually not activated in game.
THAT MEANS that DP gunners for IJN are NOT to be classed till LVL 62 at the SOONEST. Or it result in massive true ability loss. Ideally they are kept as ARMORY till lvl 80-85, as before that they are quite USELESS.
Due to previously stated facts your setup is unusable for blitzkrieg , where it could somewhat encounter success, due to the average IQ level you see there that seems to makes a carrot looks like it could come up with e=mc2 with an extra bit of water. (or it gets used with crap spread reload, and sabotaging the DP gunners future ability)
And tbh, even then. You are aware you got less firepower than some DD1?
So, we are then talking about a GB setup.
When is the last time you saw a TW ship get into DD1 range of the BB line?
Most TW get killed before they finish releasing their torps at start.
You get much better options : namely HH. Mount a sonar, and do both torp walls and ASW. now THATS actually useful to the team.
Much better than some guns that have trouble overpowering the rep rate of some BBs, even if you somewhat got in range.
Kuma class ships already have very limited displacement. So when you use it up, make sure its something that is worthy of being on the ship, especially since you need every knot you can get to start with.
Main reason its "unusual" normally means its "crap" or " not working"
Fine. So I was wrong about the stats. But geesh, so RUDE!
The DP gunners are there to show off. Really. Because I reload in about .01 of a second. I really only fire in gradual mode to scare people and get reactions...I.e. it's my troll ship. I have an odd sence of humour I suppose. However, if I put it on simultaneous firing I can get more damage done and it actually does work. The rate of fire is good enough that I've killed CAs from reasonably full health down to the bottom of the ocean. I take advantage of my speed (good engy's) and their cruddy reload in order to do my pwning. Smaller ships get to suck my torps.
I'm not taking this into GBs as a Kuma Kai...When it hits 61 I'll remodel it first to Kitakami. This current ship is just for me to HAVE FUN in blitz. From what I can tell a lot of NF players sometimes seem to forget that this is A GAME and you should HAVE FUN. Too many people complain about this and that, or are immature and criticise other people.
The spread is pretty good when I put on simultaneous firing. Just when I use gradual I have a habit of overclicking because of the high rate of fire. Thus I only use it to freak people out and get lulz before I switch to simul and beat them down.\
You seem to have a serious attitude problem-- how long have you been in this game? I've been here more than 5 and 1/2 years and you don't see me talking to people the way you just did.
And once again, I know the stats I said weren't correct. So sue me. I mean, I have a bad memory. I just checked and they're about +24.
>>>>>Also get off me about the necro. When I posted in that, I don't think there were even any datestamps on here yet (the rebuilt site was relatively more new than it is now) so I couldn't have known it was a necro. (And tbh it's STILL pretty new, considering they haven't even fixed the codes yet.) I'm not big on forums, but I know what a necro is. However, if there's no date to see when the last post was, you don't know it's dead.<<<<<
"Never class IJN DPs until lvl.62"
What the heck? lol wow I failed. I do appreciate the insight--there's no way I could have known this when I made those sailor characters. I started this game when I was like 14 or 15, and didn't know jack (or probably care) about classing until I got serious about learning more info, later into my NF hobby. I wasn't used to fancy complicated game stats like that, and I'd be hard pressed to say whether I'd ever be. Guilty, lol. But if you were that young and playing this you might not give a care either. You know, teenagers. We make more mistakes when we're that age. >.>;
I used to only play the game and not read the forums. BIG mistake, I know. I'm really not a hardcore sort of person; despite my love for NF... However, I can log in to the Nebby server and go into any given GB/GB2/Blitz room and there'll be someone (or even several ppl) who knows me in there. I get around, having been here almost since beta. (I started basically right AFTER beta. In fact, I WISH I had been there FOR beta, because I'd been hoping for a new wargame for some time before and didn't like the other ones I tried. I came a bit late to the party but w/e) Like I said this is a game. If you're not having fun (as it seems to be with you, the way you're writing so disrespectfully) then you're doing it wrong.
I had these gunners for several years, but they remained low level because it's hard to level 7-8 ships at once and I have about that number of developing ship lines (can't work on all of them at once). Yeah, I know I shouldn't have so many at once, and I really don't know how I got there in the first place.
Everyone has their weaknesses. Just accept it and stop attacking people. Casual players should not be subject to verbal abuse just because they made some petty mistakes about stating their stats and all that. I really frankly don't care about being hardcore in NF...as long as I can kick other players' butts then it really doesn't matter to me. I do have may decent-stat sailors but I was never told to wait before classing. It's what I get for being the only NF player in my area. >w< It would indeed be nice to know another player in my town, but nvm, I'm out in the sticks. >w<
Maybe you should come over to my server and watch me kill some BB1s/CAs in blitz with this ship. Then you'll understand. The machine gun setup is because once I release my torps TWs tend to get targeted and sunk really fast. Thus a high rate of fire allows me to get more shots off and do more damage before I die. Or, if I cripple my target(s) with the Torpedo spread I can finish them off with the fast guns.
"AAW isn't in use"
Yeah, I found out that the hard way, albeit a long time ago. I made a Mach.gunner (no one will buy him so why haven't I deleted him yet? Actually maybe I'm hoping thinly TNF will reenstate AAW as a working factor) and put work into levelling him, only to find out apparently AAW doesn't even work as a stat at all. I always thought it was strange. Well, If you'd been there and told me this before I made that character then we'd be set, wouldn't we. What a shame, I wish I'd known that before I made thay mistake. Although I really think AAW shouldn't be broken/deactivated forever, and it's only a matter of time before they work on it.
Also, this forum needs a "report post" button. >.> Jussayin'.
