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  • Give us London back!

    10. 15. 2011 23:17


mielone
Simple question: when PMW will have London back? Today?

 

  • Re : Give us London back!

    10. 16. 2011 01:28


Blinkerek
Originally Posted by cena200

The bug affected both side involved, just ACH were more persistent in trying to get to the area and opening rooms... not NFs fault if you didnt have enough people online that were willing to keep trying.

Kudos to ACH


We got twice more ppl than ACH does.

By the way who's talking? Guy from fleet that took Tokyo in the same circumstances a couple of hours earlier...

  • Re : Give us London back!

    10. 16. 2011 01:46


cena200
Originally Posted by Blinkerek

Originally Posted by cena200

The bug affected both side involved, just ACH were more persistent in trying to get to the area and opening rooms... not NFs fault if you didnt have enough people online that were willing to keep trying.

Kudos to ACH


We got twice more ppl than ACH does.

By the way who's talking? Guy from fleet that took Tokyo in the same circumstances a couple of hours earlier...



Yep and Kudos to my members for making the decision between themselves whilst I was not there, and Kudos to andrusn who stood up and accepted the decision, he accepted the leadership, told AA to speak with him (knowing they would probably have a massive go at him) yet they did not even bother contacting him.

If you guys not willing to put in the effort and keep trying to get to the harbour, your going to lose it... just like those that cry for HA to be closed at public holidays... Effort level guys.

  • Re : Give us London back!

    10. 16. 2011 01:51


Dragon_Boats
considering that only two out of 8 harbors had dishonorable attacks and were lost due to a sde-created bug ...

(and that makes it NOT 'as is' ... 'as is' was last week ....... for this week its 'as corrupted by sde ineptitude' )

considering that only two were exploited ... then its two fleets that sde should make effort to be compensated
why should those two fleets be the only ones penalized in this ?.. since its a patch bug issue that sde caused
if sde can not or does not wish to restore the harbors - fine - but then they should make it right with AA and PMW

i'm reasonably sure there are support tix sent in with suggestions for sde to consider for possible methods ...




but to address cena's comment above ... re-setting all 4 harbors is NOT the only way it can be done ...

its pretty simple for sde to strip out the fleetmaster acct and disband the fleet holding a exploited harbor
which then frees it up to be reclaimed by the legitmate fleet who had it before the dishonorable exploit

just something you might want to consider .. re-setting all 4 harbors is not the only way it can be corrected




assuming the harbors remain 'as is' ..
there is still the matter of only two fleets being unfairly deprived of their harbors due to a sde-caused mess

sde has responsibility in this matter .. regardless of how they may wish to sidestep it ..
they should come to a method to compensate all fleet members of the 2 fleets involved
there should be discussion between the fleet leaders and sde/tnf as to the specifics ...
but each member who showed up lost out .. and each member is entitled to redress


thats just how i see it ... sde made a mess .. sde should either clean it up and restore harbors somehow
or make ammends and compensate all fleet members who were cheated out of HA and event drops time





of course this is assuming sde/nfna actually cares about taking responsibility for their mess up in this patch

  • Re : Give us London back!

    10. 16. 2011 01:59


cena200
Originally Posted by Dragon_Boats

considering that only two out of 8 harbors had dishonorable attacks and were lost due to a sde-created bug ...

(and that makes it NOT 'as is' ... 'as is' was last week ....... for this week its 'as corrupted by sde ineptitude' )

considering that only two were exploited ... then its two fleets that sde should make effort to be compensated

i'm reasonably sure there are support tix sent in with suggestions for sde to consider for possible methods ...




but to address cena's comment above ... re-setting all 4 harbors is NOT the only way it can be done ...

its pretty simple for sde to strip out the fleetmaster acct and dump the fleet holding a exploited harbor
which then frees it up to be reclaimed by the legitmate fleet who had it before the dishonorable exploit

just something you might want to consider .. re-setting all 4 harbors is not the only way it can be corrected



assuming the harbors remain 'as is' ..
there is still the matter of only two fleets being unfairly deprived of their harbors due to a sde-caused mess

sde has responsibility in this matter .. regardless of how they may wish to sidestep it ..
they should come to a method to compensate all fleet members of the 2 fleets involved
there should be discussion between the fleet leaders and sde/tnf as to the specifics ...
but each member who showed up lost out .. and each member is entitled to redress


thats just how i see it ... sde made a mess .. sde should either clean it up and restore harbors somehow
or make ammends and compensate all fleet members who were cheated out of HA and event drops time





of course this is assuming sde/nfna actually cares about taking responsibility for their mess up in this patch



For 6yrs SDE have had the same policy regarding HA... they do not edit results, they are extremely unlikely to kick out either of the 2 new owners. The only time they would consider this is if a hack had been used, however it is their own problem. We voted for Harbour assaults to come back, including bugs... they did not say this would not include future bugs, so the majority voted for this.

And as I said yesterday for those that continue flaming me... I have spoken with head mod, and I have spoken with AA fleetleader, as nobody here is aware of the decision us 2 came to, how about ya hush up? sweet :)

  • Re : Give us London back!

    10. 16. 2011 02:06


Dragon_Boats
Originally Posted by cena200

how about ya hush up? sweet :)


why don't you follow your own advice then ? ......



you have the harbor ... your part in this fiasco is done ...
if sde chooses to recompensate tAA and PMW in some manner .. that is not your concern at all ...
you have your harbor .. your part in all this is done ... let those involved in the aftermath discuss redress

  • Re : Give us London back!

    10. 16. 2011 02:15


cena200
Originally Posted by Dragon_Boats

Originally Posted by cena200

how about ya hush up? sweet :)


why don't you follow your own advice then ? ......



you have the harbor ... your part in this fiasco is done ...
if sde chooses to recompensate tAA and PMW in some manner .. that is not your concern at all ...
you have your harbor .. your part in all this is done ... let those involved in the aftermath discuss redress



Meh goodluck with your claim, but after speaking with head mod and to randy via another mod... it seems SDE gunna take their normal stance.

  • Re : Give us London back!

    10. 16. 2011 02:22


sylwesterph
Tro lo lo lo lol
Cena what is big problem to cancel HA?
Now for you and your fleet it would be great if you can keep Tokyo and HA be closed. Oh look UN got harborn.Ah I forgot they have won it without honor.This same with ACH.

CYA.

  • Re : Give us London back!

    10. 16. 2011 02:37


apmonte
This shit is really boring.

  • Re : Give us London back!

    10. 16. 2011 02:39


cena200
Originally Posted by sylwesterph

Tro lo lo lo lol
Cena what is big problem to cancel HA?
Now for you and your fleet it would be great if you can keep Tokyo and HA be closed. Oh look UN got harborn.Ah I forgot they have won it without honor.This same with ACH.

CYA.



I have great faith in my members that they would have won anyway, the problem to cancel the HA is that nobody online could do that... that wasnt the case with ACH though, they spoke with your leadership and agreed to cancel if it was bugged, and then went against their word.

Meh AA always bragging how much better than us they are, well tomorrow is monday and declarations can begin
:)

  • Re : Give us London back!

    10. 16. 2011 02:48


ljsevern
As an FYI, Flota Chile took Hamburg from Jedi via a desync a while back, and after a request from both Flota Chile and Jedi to have the harbour returned, they gave it back.

With the recent coding patch, it should (in theory) be even easier for them to give it back, and I hope that they do.

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