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  • Where are the CV's ... I ll tell you !

    11. 12. 2011 04:16


cello1
No 1 . ppl are fed up with the amount of FW's in the game ... its getting impossable to reach the attacking camp with attack planes.Someone was asking for CV info in topic below & was told sraight that CVing now is fighter centric.For this to stop SDE need to do something. Every CV should carry atleast 1 attack plane ( I dont care if they chose not to use it ) over a certain lvl.I understand low CVs sometimes in training pilots cant get all on at 1 time but  PCV FW are just there to leech off those trying to lvl up
or use some air attack, this causes ppl to be reluctant to start a CV line , not only the expense of a good CV crew & months lvling just to have a cheap SS take you out with a single voley or moltkies rapeing the skies. Basicly the minuses for CVing are begining to outway the possatives for CV game play.

No2 . Things are just about to get even worse for CV's . Until now high lvl CV's were your Banker, a way to generate credis for trade etc ... now we have a new trade system for olives, ppl would rather sell for olives to gain premium account time or buy other items ... soon game credis will become a exhausted economy superseeded by the olive system.Therefor the credis will become only required for moveing up the line ,& less & less trade will be done for creds. This will remove the need for the CV Bankers giving another reason not to use your CV.

So for those ppl woundering where all the CV's are , they are in harbours not being used like my 2 PCV for the reasons above ... this will contine untill Fr & Attack slots are forced on high lvl CV's, as for the games economy we shall see the effect on trade & the demise of gamecredits take its toll .

 

  • Re : Where are the CV's ... I ll tell you !

    11. 12. 2011 12:43


aingeal
so basically, its a bomberwhore who fails to go around the fighter, and therefore rants on the forum.


We always told BW is hard to do efficiently, and most BW CVs are therefore utter failure.

Because an enemy CVs use fighter well and you use your bombers with a direct click to the middle map doesn't mean rules have to change, I'm sorry.

  • Re : Where are the CV's ... I ll tell you !

    11. 12. 2011 13:13


V2CxBongRipz
Originally Posted by aingeal

so basically, its a bomberwhore who fails to go around the fighter, and therefore rants on the forum.


We always told BW is hard to do efficiently, and most BW CVs are therefore utter failure.

Because an enemy CVs use fighter well and you use your bombers with a direct click to the middle map doesn't mean rules have to change, I'm sorry.


lol

  • Re : Where are the CV's ... I ll tell you !

    11. 12. 2011 13:26


Wulfman
Solution to get more cvs:

1.

Limit number of pure aa ships in a game. It gets ridiculus and annoying sometimes.

2.

You cant carry only fighters or db/tb on a Cv. You need at least 20% (suggestion) mixture.

  • Re : Where are the CV's ... I ll tell you !

    11. 12. 2011 15:16


Biter_Wylie
I totally agree with the OP. 100% FW or 100% BW should not even be an option. Just like on NFKR. As the OP pointed out it is in today's game the only option. A mixed CV set up has no teeth, the introduction of super durable PCV class made the problem even worse.

  • Re : Where are the CV's ... I ll tell you !

    11. 12. 2011 15:52


ixixi
I have KM pcv with 8 fighters
I have MN pcv with 2 fithers+6bombers
I have IJN cv4 with 4 fighters+3bombers
I have US cv3 with 5 lv101 EBVE fighters (190vets)
I also have kaiser, Alsace, super yammy, iowa, lion, and a small russian BB/CV.........

I hate myself, why I level up so many nations..., I should just stick on my KM line. ...

so,
if cv not good, play bb,
if bb not good, play AA.
I hate being covered by enemy fighters, so I spend 50% time for AA when driving KM/IJN/MN BB5......, especially H44, so much fun.

btw, why my km fighters can't kill some bombers quickly. the bombers are keep turnning, circling, diving...... , I control my fighters, but still not as quick as I thought, kill half of the bombers, another half still can attack......
my bombers are lv115+ bve 160vets.
so I think some one can handle his bombers very good, for avoiding fighters.

  • Re : Where are the CV's ... I ll tell you !

    11. 12. 2011 15:56


Ultra_Dog
Originally Posted by Biter_Wylie

I totally agree with the OP. 100% FW or 100% BW should not even be an option. Just like on NFKR. As the OP pointed out it is in today's game the only option. A mixed CV set up has no teeth, the introduction of super durable PCV class made the problem even worse.


Even with my high level T4 crew, spending the entire time just fending off fighters is somewhat boring and ineffective. I run between 1 and 3 TB pilots (UK) offset with between 5 and 7 fighters. I never leave home without either fighters or bombers. To be defenseless against some SS or CL pops up next to you is unwise. A nice squadron of TBs can easily remove most SS threats and certainly most CLs quite handily. On the otherhand, to be without fighters while some lone T1 takes out your entire bomber squadron doesn't sound like a good strategy.

Only reason I can see is that the BO for those PCVs is probably from a BB line, and the player just happened to buy a few Fighter Pilots on the trade system and hasn't gotten his bomber crew yet. Or...?

  • Re : Where are the CV's ... I ll tell you !

    11. 12. 2011 19:02


ArkadyChekov
The more SDE tacks ships on the end of the tree, more tiers, the less useful and enjoyable the lower level players feel. Casual players have no hope of leveling up into something usefull . This game has fallen so far, where has the player base gone? 2 games in 2 hours last friday night, plenty of fail rooms. CV's are scarse, I dont blame them with all the bull they have to takea and as for AA, how can you scout effectively when aa is 2x fighter sight range. A long time ago Great Gazoo said that SDE would make more tree choices for more variety so that it was always attractive for new players not being one shotted but some ridiculous fantasy high level BB that never met reality. What once was a brilliant game has long been dead....you just havent realized it yet you fools.

  • Re : Where are the CV's ... I ll tell you !

    11. 12. 2011 20:20


joserosa
Originally Posted by V2CxBongRipz

Originally Posted by aingeal

so basically, its a bomberwhore who fails to go around the fighter, and therefore rants on the forum.


We always told BW is hard to do efficiently, and most BW CVs are therefore utter failure.

Because an enemy CVs use fighter well and you use your bombers with a direct click to the middle map doesn't mean rules have to change, I'm sorry.


lol


lolo ^_^ No 1 ur wrong when i play bw just for fun ppl keep complaining. they can't see.
i like playing all fw is fun sometime it get boring. i am a fail at bw. lol

  • Re : Where are the CV's ... I ll tell you !

    11. 12. 2011 21:54


lanthanide
Originally Posted by Goouch

No 3. i think unbalance between nations is more accurate at the time to answer why many ppl just quit from running cvs (almots all new lines are US, on the counterpart IJN or RN are just being abandoned since they become useless against overpowered US fighters.)


I have RN Lion 2 and the Malta. Malta's main R batteries mount 5.3" AA batteries for pesky fighters with some LHE added for close sub encounters.

I run RN fighters, torpedo bombers and dive bombers. US fighters can still die when the pilots facing mine are lower than 110. Any higher and I start taking losses. I don't worry too much. It's only when I get ganked do I refuse to play as a carrier. An example is a four carrier per team split and I'm the only one packing fighters.

I can safely defend against 2 carriers. It's when you add a third carrier to the mix that I start getting a headache. No matter how hard I push back, there is always that small chance of futility. :)

  • Re : Where are the CV's ... I ll tell you !

    11. 12. 2011 23:07


Maistral
Originally Posted by V2CxBongRipz


You don't have to borderhump to be effective with bombers.


epic.

Originally Posted by lanthanide


.... An example is a four carrier per team split and I'm the only one packing fighters.

I can safely defend against 2 carriers. It's when you add a third carrier to the mix that I start getting a headache. No matter how...


Stop directing your posts at me, lol

j/k XD

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