@Josh thanks for your input as it to the point and logical. in that case after talking with ljsevern. SS needs to be changed and not other ships, but it's good to get feedback from other players.

@mistermetal
thanks for contributing nothing.

Np texan, but while your at it, ild check all the other «buff/nerf ss» threads. People on both sides have been complaining like mad. Fact is that ss are overpowered as is and not enough small ships have the sence playing asw.

lol cranky much? my points aren't weak they're true.

plus if BBs or CVs aren't allowed to carry ASW then SS shouldn't be allowed to have: Guns/Scouts/ or smoke bombs.

the funny thing is that you automaticly assumed that I hate SS lol, I may drive a BB but I have played SS/CV and all other types of ships in this game and not once in my post did I mention I hated SS.

Remember this quote: "When you Assume, you make an ass out of you and me"

I like to drive SS but have sold my crew over a year ago and would rather concentrate on my BB then make another crew.

Good idea maybe can add antiaircraft guns and they will make will cease to complain ur under bombarded.
That is balanced the game and no one type of ship can have all weapons.
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ljsevern

To be honest, you should learn to adapt to it. Why make the game easier?

It is part of BB play to get someone to shoot at you mid turn near the border so that part of their salvo is away from their guidelines to mess them up. I don't see why it is good that making the game easier and taking away a difference between a skilled and unskilled BB driver. ''

Who talk is never can adapt against subs,can't play sub or asw to fight in battle,is to hard maybe mocking any subs topic is ok?

The issue is this: In GB, it is a random assorted collection of people who do not communicate or coordinate, against another similar group. So each person must rely on their own abilities/setup or be lucky enough to have an ASW/AA ship near them for defense against SS/DB/TB.

In this type of environment, SS are much more dangerous than when facing a coordinated defense, against a team that is tracking them, and dealing with them. In say, a fleet league, against a coordinated defense, with dedicated ASW ,they are much closer to what they are supposed to be, and rather easy to deal with.

People who cry OP just can't accept this fact. They take a lvl 120 crew on the test server and pretend that this is how all SS are. SS are GB ragers simply due to the fact there isn't a coordinated defense against them. We did it in fleet WARS , and as predicted, SS were almost a non-event, and rarely made a difference. I would be willing to bet that I could take 3 ASW ships and nuke any number of SS, indefinitely. But that would be in, say, a fleet league. But we already know how that goes, lol. Certain people are so afraid of being proven wrong they won't even try it. They need to cap it at SS2 (LOL!!!!) in order to feel safe, instead of just adding some ASW to the order of battle.

But cry about capital ship ASW?? Comon, You already have it SOOOOOO good, coming in against herd of random people. How much easier do you want it? Again, especially in GB, people need to have some sort of defense against the SS attack. In GB, you arent able to count on your friends to counter the SS threat.

OP should just watch out for the BB carrying PHH ( they are fairly rare, I do it, kill a lot of SS lol). You can SEE them on the ship. Heres a hint: the BB carrying PHH is a hard target. You need to get them to shoot their wad then kill them during reload. It's tricky, but hey , what do you want? Free xp/cred?

@ metal " Fact is that ss are overpowered as is and not enough small ships have the sence playing asw."
-thats your teams fault, don't blame the ss user. however stick around...


@BCMaster "lol cranky much?"
don't resort to ad hominem attacks, it does nothing to defend your argument. for the record i'm always cranky, get used to it.

"plus if BBs or CVs aren't allowed to carry ASW then SS shouldn't be allowed to have: Guns/Scouts/ or smoke bombs."
- read my other posts, i always said i'm cool with the removal of smoke bombs for ss. historically SS did use guns and scouts.(to no real major results) but hey to make ya happy i'l gladly get rid of them too if it means removing asw from capital ships. (hell i don't even use them now.)

"Remember this quote: "When you Assume, you make an ass out of you and me"
-meh people assumed i never played anything else but a tw...so thats cool, besides the point, but cool. now lets focus on the issue.

@Altsein can you repeat that? btw you played UO?

@Mezak76 see this guy has it going on raising points to question other peoples point. (kudos to you) there has to be some sort of benefit for players to play asw roles, that way it encourages non-capital ships to play their roles. cause lets face it, everyone wants to be a cv or a bb. though i do see some players playing niche roles as AA and even a minority ASW set-up. i would like to see that expounded on like ljsevern suggested in his last post. set a system that rewards players to take on these roles. otherwise it boils down to bb's and cv's, submarines are suppose to threaten capital ships, not the other way around. in turn non-capital ships should be harassing SS. in which there should be a benefit for them besides the "good job" from major ships.

@josh, go re-read the whole thread you missed a lot of good points others have said and are regurgitating your rhetoric.

recc, lol a lot of bbs and cvs full of phhs and their escort full of phhs. and around 15 secs pcv fires 56 phhs on sub, and lj said ohh well you have to more and more practice about cric dive. rofl, another blessed comment