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  • Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 03. 2012 14:55

Recommend : 2

Ramzil9Tails
A long time ago, but not beyond memory, the rules allowed for room hosts to ban players who
were making the game unfair for others.

Since that time, it seems the rules have changed and now hosts and players must put up with a
lot of junk.

I propose a complete overhaul of the rules as they are today, that make it possible for
rooms to be horribly unbalanced, for players to cause problems for others by pushing a host to
go before a proper balance (Spamming "GO!" and other variants of said), and to have a clash
of definitions between the moderators (whom, as far as I can tell, are simply players in very good
standing with TNF).

The In-Game Rules should also be updated to match any changes, and should follow the proper
form of language to that used by the server (Example: The Americas Server should use
Business/Legal English as it is the global business standard. European Servers should use the EU
Official Language, and so on.)

That is not to say all players must only speak that language, but that the standard is that which
should be used to denote the rules. (In keeping with such that Legal Contracts such as EULA
must by law use the legal language of the area.)

If it truly is such that hosts may not for any reason ban a player, then the feature which gives a host
power to do so should be locked in the way that the directional arrow feature has been locked.

A simple solution for this that allows for the Loader Contingency (a player fails to load thus preventing
the room from starting) is to insert a code that at its simplest would read:

IF
Player_X_Load = FALSE AND Room_Locked = TRUE
THEN
Auto_Ban_Unloaded_Player = TRUE

(You may Adjust to fit language, syntax, and so forth.)

I personally think that the majority of problems stem from poor communication;  (It is bad when players
are spamming go before it is even possible, IE 10 in a blitz room when 16 is the minimum and 24 is
optimum for EXP, or when two separate moderators judge an offense to differing degrees IE A Team Kill
being a ban to one mod or ignored by another.)

Further more, It is clear that not everyone utilizes the forums for information, and many are not even
aware of changes to rules, events, or other effects that are mentioned both on the forum and in the
Patch notes on the Navy Field Updater. (Example blatantly proven in this latest coin event where many
were not even aware until players begged them to check the forums and see why they wanted to wait
till 5 minutes before the final shells were fired.)

It should be made clear with everyone that the rules are one way; radical changes need heavy publication,
and even slight adjustments should elicit an inescapable notice of some form. IE Pop up message in game
or mass forum message.

If rules are there to make the game fair, then the rules should be fair themselves, and while rules may be
subject to change, that should not mean that they change without proper warning.

 

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 06. 2012 23:03


cospengle
Originally Posted by BarracudaSp
... but i really really like the idea of enforcing the rule that a player must be able speak English to play on NFNA.

... lol?

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 07. 2012 02:51


ontherock
Originally Posted by BarracudaSp


Um no dude I'm >>not racist<<. I hate racists btw. I just meant that it's impossible for many of us American NF gamers to communicate with players who don't speak English (in order to successfully coordinate team play) and theres no way i can help them to learn English either so the only other solution is...? GIVE THEM THEIR OWN SERVER (NFSA? idk)? Perhaps just do what NFEU did, a server for each language? IIRC they have one for German, English, French etc?


If you really played this game 7 years, you should have noticed that there are not enough number of players to make an American only server, not to mention other countries.

Very nice suggestion to terminate NF .

And segregate people just for language is equal to Apartheid.

Originally Posted by BarracudaSp


The Spanish speaking players will also benefit from this


hm yes,yes, South African gov said totally same thing.

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 07. 2012 11:03


Happymeal2
i think if someone says go in a room they should be autobanned; i can deal with the loaders on my own.

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 07. 2012 17:48


normpearii
Don't really need new rules...

You can kick people for spamming. Just wait til they so go 3+ times and kick. Problem solved. I've done it quite a few times. I Even gave them warnings.

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 07. 2012 22:47


Ramzil9Tails
Originally Posted by ontherock

Originally Posted by BarracudaSp

Already gave a rec before I saw this thread but i really really like the idea of enforcing the rule that a player must be able speak English to play on NFNA. That rule already exists, or it did when I started playing 7 years ago, anyway but--
>>>>>>>It's just not enforced.<<<<<<<<<<<<
I'm not racist...my real point is that it's hard to tell an NF teammate "watch out you're about to get hit by x" when they're like "jajjjjjjjajajjajjaj no ingles zorry" or even just fail to understand a single word you say.



1. NA includes 3 countries, Canada, Mexico and America.
2. NA languages are English, French and Spanish plus some natives.
3. Therefore you should suggest changing server name to NF"US" first in order to restrict language to English.
4. Otherwise, it is nonsense to restrict languages to English, because it says NF"NA".
5. Your point obviously comes from racist view, which is boosted by ignorance.
Your rubbish talk is equal to this. "I can`t understand them, so wipe them out."


First I speak Spanish and German as a Second and Thrid Language thanks to my REAL LIFE JOB. I need to to communicate with foreign employees. I am not racist, I just think that Navy Fields servers should follow the international standard for legal communications. This is English. Even in Japan they have classes specifically for that reason.

Further More, the languages in Canada are ENGLISH, and French is in the main only in ONE Provence.

As for Mexico, MOST Modern Geographical Demographics consider it as part of Latin America. Just like they consider Greenland, while on the North American Continental Plate, to be European. The ONLY nations classified North American by modern Geographical Demographics are the United States, and Canada.

This is due to the vast differences in the cultures of the regions.

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 08. 2012 02:42


store89
You talk about English but can't even spell province correctly.

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 08. 2012 06:00


ozzy0
its a free web game and there for can be used by all
saying that nf na is for north america only and the nf eu is for europe is wrong
there are manny language's in use in the us allone and even more in europe
if u don't want to see the language the remove the chat box u have that option

as for ballance looks can be misleading not all players have the same skill lvl
so u can have like 4 monty split 2 vs 2 and that shud be even
but if 1 of those montys is fail or have lagg the ballance can be gone

same counts for cv a low lvl cv can have high lvl planes
as for ss there are asw to kill those and ss vs ss fight and then again a low lvl ss kan kill a high lvl one

as for the go noobs ban asap the game has autosplit so there is no need to say go to a host
ps. if u host be there don't go afk

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 08. 2012 23:36


Bart133
Originally Posted by Ramzil9Tails

Originally Posted by ontherock

Originally Posted by BarracudaSp

Already gave a rec before I saw this thread but i really really like the idea of enforcing the rule that a player must be able speak English to play on NFNA. That rule already exists, or it did when I started playing 7 years ago, anyway but--
>>>>>>>It's just not enforced.<<<<<<<<<<<<
I'm not racist...my real point is that it's hard to tell an NF teammate "watch out you're about to get hit by x" when they're like "jajjjjjjjajajjajjaj no ingles zorry" or even just fail to understand a single word you say.



1. NA includes 3 countries, Canada, Mexico and America.
2. NA languages are English, French and Spanish plus some natives.
3. Therefore you should suggest changing server name to NF"US" first in order to restrict language to English.
4. Otherwise, it is nonsense to restrict languages to English, because it says NF"NA".
5. Your point obviously comes from racist view, which is boosted by ignorance.
Your rubbish talk is equal to this. "I can`t understand them, so wipe them out."


First I speak Spanish and German as a Second and Thrid Language thanks to my REAL LIFE JOB. I need to to communicate with foreign employees. I am not racist, I just think that Navy Fields servers should follow the international standard for legal communications. This is English. Even in Japan they have classes specifically for that reason.

Further More, the languages in Canada are ENGLISH, and French is in the main only in ONE Provence.

As for Mexico, MOST Modern Geographical Demographics consider it as part of Latin America. Just like they consider Greenland, while on the North American Continental Plate, to be European. The ONLY nations classified North American by modern Geographical Demographics are the United States, and Canada.

This is due to the vast differences in the cultures of the regions.

North America is a continent. Canada, Greenland, the United States, Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama and a bunch of Carribean islands are all North America. Latin America is a cultural region, not a continent, and if you can't tell that from looking at a map you probably use a DB-only UK CV6 too.
Just in those countries, you have at least English, Spanish, French, Haitian Creole, Dutch, Danish and Greenlandic as official languages. And even if you do limit it to the US and Canada, French and Hawaiian are official languages. Or are you just saying we should ignore them because English is better?

Sure, a Japanese investor might talk to a Polish businessman in English. But why does that mean this game shouldn't let two Chileans speak Spanish to each other?

If it's just the rules you're talking about... they're ~already~ in English.

Originally Posted by store89

You talk about English but can't even spell province correctly.

French is the main language in Provence, noop.

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 09. 2012 03:44


Tomm96
Originally Posted by normpearii

Don't really need new rules...

You can kick people for spamming. Just wait til they so go 3+ times and kick. Problem solved. I've done it quite a few times. I Even gave them warnings.


As vick11 said to me you are not allowed to kick, you need to screenshoot it and report the player.

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