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  • HMS Hood Wreckage

    01. 30. 2012 16:52


CaptRaulDuke
I found this site just tonight, I thought others here may find it interesting too.
There is many photos of the Wreck of HMS Hood, gives one a good idea just how devasting that fatal explosion was.

https://www.hmshood.com/hoodtoday/2001expedition/hood/index.htm


R.I.P Crew of HMS Hood.


 

  • Re : HMS Hood Wreckage

    02. 02. 2012 18:25


AndrusN
Originally Posted by Lionel2

The believed cause for the disaster on the Hood was the same as a lot of other ships: The HMS Defense and HMS Queen Mary, and Invincible at Jutland, and the HMS Barham in the med. all were lost to magazine explosions in their secondary ammunition lockers. Dive expeditions to the Jutland wrecks showed that many of the flash-proof protection doors were open, and that there were bags of powder in undestroyed turrets in places they should not have been doctrinally stored.

HMS Invincible, in particular was well known as the fastest firing ship in the fleet during the war and it appeared that the crew was cutting corners to save time. I myself have seen practice similar to this in tanks. The M1 has a blast door to seperate the ammo from the gun and to direct explosions away from the crew compartment. It takes more time to load the gun, so some crews lock the doors open or have a round "lap loaded" in the turret when there is already one in the gun.

I saw an incredible documentary on youtube from the divers and naval experts that made these discoveries. If I can find it again, I'll post.

I do agree with you on the findings of the Hood, and of the other dives that discovered the doors of the ammo lockers were open, although this video only talks about a small portion of what really happened, it defiantly sums it up really well. The other videos are really cool to watch too.

http://wn.com/The_Battleships__Jutland_Clash_Of_The_Dreadnoughts

  • Re : HMS Hood Wreckage

    02. 02. 2012 18:51


Lionel2
Originally Posted by AndrusN

I do agree with you on the findings of the Hood, and of the other dives that discovered the doors of the ammo lockers were open, although this video only talks about a small portion of what really happened, it defiantly sums it up really well. The other videos are really cool to watch too.

http://wn.com/The_Battleships__Jutland_Clash_Of_The_Dreadnoughts


That is a great clip. Ever seen the footage of the Barham? Its incredibly sobering to see men climbing over the side just before it blows up. When I saw it, it was touching to think all those people died.

  • Re : HMS Hood Wreckage

    02. 03. 2012 06:59


AndrusN
Originally Posted by Lionel2

Originally Posted by AndrusN

I do agree with you on the findings of the Hood, and of the other dives that discovered the doors of the ammo lockers were open, although this video only talks about a small portion of what really happened, it defiantly sums it up really well. The other videos are really cool to watch too.

http://wn.com/The_Battleships__Jutland_Clash_Of_The_Dreadnoughts


That is a great clip. Ever seen the footage of the Barham? Its incredibly sobering to see men climbing over the side just before it blows up. When I saw it, it was touching to think all those people died.

Yea, I have seen it.

Originally Posted by AndrusN

Originally Posted by jubdub1

The explosion of the HMS Hood will forever be a mystery. The explosion was so great it completely obliterated that section of the ship, so even with dives being conducted, scientists and historians will never know what caused the accident that destroyed one of the world's greatest battleships.

If you ask me, there was a fire or something involving a sodium based explosive, and some un-educated person tried to throw water on it to put it out. Either that, or a blasting cap went off somehow.

I'm sure that he meant this when he said that they where not sure what cause the explosion.

HMS Barham.

Video on her death. WARNING: Graphic Footage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdrISbwy_zI

You can see the sailors on her hull as it rolls over before exploding.

  • Re : HMS Hood Wreckage

    02. 03. 2012 07:13


jubdub1
hey AndrusN, check out the Wikipedia article:

"Despite the official explanation, some historians continued to believe that the torpedoes caused the ship's loss while others proposed an accidental explosion inside one of the ship's gun turrets that reached down into the magazine. Other historians have focused on the cause of the magazine explosion. The discovery of the ship's wreck in 2001 confirmed the conclusion of both boards, although the exact reason why the magazines detonated will forever be a mystery as that area of the ship was thoroughly destroyed in the explosion."

suck it. they DON'T know what really caused the ship's explosion. stop acting like you have a doctorate in history and study your resources before you start spouting off.

  • Re : HMS Hood Wreckage

    02. 03. 2012 14:16


AndrusN
Originally Posted by jubdub1

hey AndrusN, check out the Wikipedia article:

"Despite the official explanation, some historians continued to believe that the torpedoes caused the ship's loss while others proposed an accidental explosion inside one of the ship's gun turrets that reached down into the magazine. Other historians have focused on the cause of the magazine explosion. The discovery of the ship's wreck in 2001 confirmed the conclusion of both boards, although the exact reason why the magazines detonated will forever be a mystery as that area of the ship was thoroughly destroyed in the explosion."

suck it. they DON'T know what really caused the ship's explosion. stop acting like you have a doctorate in history and study your resources before you start spouting off.



First of all, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! When was the Hood hit by a torpedo?
Second, I do have a doctorate in Naval History, so suck it.
Third, I think you need to take your own advice, and check your resources for researching things. Wikipedia? Nuff said.

Pwnding noobs!

  • Re : HMS Hood Wreckage

    02. 03. 2012 15:17


Sindher
It's a well known fact that us Brit's didn't care about safety and just left doors open. A shell hit, it exploded, the end. Bismarck was capsized by wussy Germans.

  • Re : HMS Hood Wreckage

    02. 03. 2012 15:23


Lionel2
Originally Posted by Sindher

It's a well known fact that us Brit's didn't care about safety and just left doors open. A shell hit, it exploded, the end. Bismarck was capsized by wussy Germans.


LOL! A bit over- simplified, but this is pretty accurate. I'd say that they just like to get the edge and shoot faster. I think that jubdub's problem is that he isn't looking at the fact that by-passing safety procedures in UK ships to get an edge in a gunfight is a norm.

Wonder if they still do crap like that? Did anyone ever dive the wrecks in the Falklands war?

  • Re : HMS Hood Wreckage

    02. 03. 2012 17:08


jubdub1
Originally Posted by AndrusN

Originally Posted by jubdub1

hey AndrusN, check out the Wikipedia article:

"Despite the official explanation, some historians continued to believe that the torpedoes caused the ship's loss while others proposed an accidental explosion inside one of the ship's gun turrets that reached down into the magazine. Other historians have focused on the cause of the magazine explosion. The discovery of the ship's wreck in 2001 confirmed the conclusion of both boards, although the exact reason why the magazines detonated will forever be a mystery as that area of the ship was thoroughly destroyed in the explosion."

suck it. they DON'T know what really caused the ship's explosion. stop acting like you have a doctorate in history and study your resources before you start spouting off.



First of all, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! When was the Hood hit by a torpedo?
Second, I do have a doctorate in Naval History, so suck it.
Third, I think you need to take your own advice, and check your resources for researching things. Wikipedia? Nuff said.

Pwnding noobs!



Doctorate in Naval History my a$$. Any layman would know they meant that the torpedoes stored INSIDE the ship were what might have caused the explosion.
I cross checked the resources used for the HMS Hood on Wikipedia, and found they were credible.

Suck it. Again.

  • Re : HMS Hood Wreckage

    02. 03. 2012 17:55


Lionel2
Originally Posted by jubdub1

Originally Posted by AndrusN

Originally Posted by jubdub1

hey AndrusN, check out the Wikipedia article:

"Despite the official explanation, some historians continued to believe that the torpedoes caused the ship's loss while others proposed an accidental explosion inside one of the ship's gun turrets that reached down into the magazine. Other historians have focused on the cause of the magazine explosion. The discovery of the ship's wreck in 2001 confirmed the conclusion of both boards, although the exact reason why the magazines detonated will forever be a mystery as that area of the ship was thoroughly destroyed in the explosion."

suck it. they DON'T know what really caused the ship's explosion. stop acting like you have a doctorate in history and study your resources before you start spouting off.



First of all, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! When was the Hood hit by a torpedo?
Second, I do have a doctorate in Naval History, so suck it.
Third, I think you need to take your own advice, and check your resources for researching things. Wikipedia? Nuff said.

Pwnding noobs!



Doctorate in Naval History my a$$. Any layman would know they meant that the torpedoes stored INSIDE the ship were what might have caused the explosion.
I cross checked the resources used for the HMS Hood on Wikipedia, and found they were credible.

Suck it. Again.


You just don't get it do you? The Royal Navy lost at least half a dozen capital ships to magazine explosions due to exactly what we've been talking about for the entire last page. Seemingly routine hits have ignited ammunition stored in places where it shouldn't have been, and flash proof doors being left open have allowed even secondary magazines to spread catastrophic fires to spread in seconds. There is no reason to believe that Hood is any different than any of these other ships. The physical evidence all shows that the 4" magazine exploded.

If even the fanatical RN loving Sindher is saying that RN sailors were a bit untidy isn't a wake up call..... well.... then you midas well be telling us the sky is green.

  • Re : HMS Hood Wreckage

    02. 03. 2012 18:38


jubdub1
Originally Posted by Lionel2

Originally Posted by jubdub1

Originally Posted by AndrusN

Originally Posted by jubdub1

hey AndrusN, check out the Wikipedia article:

"Despite the official explanation, some historians continued to believe that the torpedoes caused the ship's loss while others proposed an accidental explosion inside one of the ship's gun turrets that reached down into the magazine. Other historians have focused on the cause of the magazine explosion. The discovery of the ship's wreck in 2001 confirmed the conclusion of both boards, although the exact reason why the magazines detonated will forever be a mystery as that area of the ship was thoroughly destroyed in the explosion."

suck it. they DON'T know what really caused the ship's explosion. stop acting like you have a doctorate in history and study your resources before you start spouting off.



First of all, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! When was the Hood hit by a torpedo?
Second, I do have a doctorate in Naval History, so suck it.
Third, I think you need to take your own advice, and check your resources for researching things. Wikipedia? Nuff said.

Pwnding noobs!



Doctorate in Naval History my a$$. Any layman would know they meant that the torpedoes stored INSIDE the ship were what might have caused the explosion.
I cross checked the resources used for the HMS Hood on Wikipedia, and found they were credible.

Suck it. Again.


You just don't get it do you? The Royal Navy lost at least half a dozen capital ships to magazine explosions due to exactly what we've been talking about for the entire last page. Seemingly routine hits have ignited ammunition stored in places where it shouldn't have been, and flash proof doors being left open have allowed even secondary magazines to spread catastrophic fires to spread in seconds. There is no reason to believe that Hood is any different than any of these other ships. The physical evidence all shows that the 4" magazine exploded.

If even the fanatical RN loving Sindher is saying that RN sailors were a bit untidy isn't a wake up call..... well.... then you midas well be telling us the sky is green.



-_-
Yes, thank you for clarifying, Dr. Watson, but apparently YOU haven't been paying attention to what I have been talking about the past page. I understand full well what (futile) point you've made.
Let's put it, um, in elementary terms, Watson.
THERE WERE TOO MANY VARIABLES THAT COULD HAVE CAUSED THE DESTRUCTION, SO THE EXACT CAUSE WILL NEVER BE KNOWN.

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