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  • UK or ITALY for BB ?

    05. 30. 2012 10:20

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onurs

hi, i have lvl 52 crew on my County.. I will go for BB.. Should i create new Italy crew ? italy ships(CL CA in blitz) damage very much, but are italy BBs better than UK BBs ? 

 

  • Re : UK or ITALY for BB ?

    06. 05. 2012 06:17


Nihonjin

Originally Posted by firezmissles

Originally Posted by Nihonjin

Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

These guys know nothing..In terms of BBs i always think about BB6 because thats the ultimate goal. And Italy has the better of the 2. UK has a Dominant BB5. RM BB5 am sure will not get nerf might get a Spread buff, but BB4 will be nerf. If i was in your position i'll go UK only becaused its a finished Product and what you see is what you get.

 

Your next Nation should be KM. Best BB6/BB5 And it requires skills. It will help you to grow as a BB player ( Well some players grow).



HAHA...YOU obviously know nothing. KM is considered to be the 2nd worst BB6/BB5. It can be "good" if the user is highly experienced and has excellent sight all game...good luck with that. RM nerf will be glorious!

@onurs

You should definitely go through and read as many posts as you can about each nation and decide which one you like. UK is not a bad choice at all.

I like this post, it clearly screams "I am terrible at BB play". You're the one who knows nothing if you think range is meaningless. You can keep poking at someone until they sink or have one salvo on them before they even get in range.



Range is great! At no point did I say range was meaningless...but apparently you are reading ghost text somewhere.

Range is awesome when you have sight over enemy for the duration of the game...which is rare. So range is very very CONDITIONAL. Besides, what idiot charges an H44 in plain sight?? You obviously would. Without constant sight your CENTIMETER range advantage is nothing. Especially when your H44 spread sucks as you are turned and running in the opposite direction. So clearly YOU "are terrible at BB play". This is why KM is a difficult nation and not advised for true beginners.

Think before you speak. Next.

  • Re : UK or ITALY for BB ?

    06. 05. 2012 14:03


OttoReinhold

Originally Posted by firezmissles
You can keep poking at someone until they sink or have one salvo on them before they even get in range.

Obviously you have never played KM BB5. There is no way you're gonna sink another BB5 with a single salvo just because of your range advantage. And there is also no way to hit someone charging at you twice without him getting in range. The rumored range advantage isn't big enough for that (it's just a few pixels).

RM and UK are both easymode. They have low angles and high shell damage. For unexperienced players this makes it a lot easier. Applies to MN too more or less. KM, IJN and USN are a bit more difficult, but if played right still equally strong (excet for the currently overpowered Italian BB4 until that gets fixed). 

  • Re : UK or ITALY for BB ?

    06. 10. 2012 09:51


NewYorkBoy

Originally Posted by Nihonjin

Originally Posted by firezmissles

Originally Posted by Nihonjin

Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

These guys know nothing..In terms of BBs i always think about BB6 because thats the ultimate goal. And Italy has the better of the 2. UK has a Dominant BB5. RM BB5 am sure will not get nerf might get a Spread buff, but BB4 will be nerf. If i was in your position i'll go UK only becaused its a finished Product and what you see is what you get.

 

Your next Nation should be KM. Best BB6/BB5 And it requires skills. It will help you to grow as a BB player ( Well some players grow).



HAHA...YOU obviously know nothing. KM is considered to be the 2nd worst BB6/BB5. It can be "good" if the user is highly experienced and has excellent sight all game...good luck with that. RM nerf will be glorious!

@onurs

You should definitely go through and read as many posts as you can about each nation and decide which one you like. UK is not a bad choice at all.

I like this post, it clearly screams "I am terrible at BB play". You're the one who knows nothing if you think range is meaningless. You can keep poking at someone until they sink or have one salvo on them before they even get in range.



Range is great! At no point did I say range was meaningless...but apparently you are reading ghost text somewhere.

Range is awesome when you have sight over enemy for the duration of the game...which is rare. So range is very very CONDITIONAL. Besides, what idiot charges an H44 in plain sight?? You obviously would. Without constant sight your CENTIMETER range advantage is nothing. Especially when your H44 spread sucks as you are turned and running in the opposite direction. So clearly YOU "are terrible at BB play". This is why KM is a difficult nation and not advised for true beginners.

Think before you speak. Next.

 

You must be from kaiser server..Don't know how they play KM ships over there..but H44 is a beast and kaiser is a beast..And if you have to wait for a ship to be blind to attack your clearly lacking skills. But I'll pick Range over firepower. Could never let a monty or L2 kill me unless the rush while im blind. And still might die. H44 spead also doesn't suck once your 120 gunners..And KM was my easiest of 7 BB6 grinds to be honest from opro1-H44 found it fun n easy.

  • Re : UK or ITALY for BB ?

    06. 10. 2012 13:45


NIborGER

KM is by far the best beginner nation. Trust me.(was mine too)

In low lvl till bb3 u have awesome AA allowing fast lvling and gaining extra experts (emden+moltke!) and even the bb1-3 are ok for AA.

The bb4 is awesome and its definetly the best when it comes to fight other bb5s.

 

The bb5 definetly needs a good player but never give up. If u get it playstyle u have the best bb5 in your hand. Trust me its the best. (my played nations: km bb6, usn bb6, rm 116, ijn 110, mn 108)

 

The bb6 is a realy holiday ship. Any all welcome and HA can be dominated with it. (playing a bb6 in GB is a waste. 1. Its stupid farming 2. everyone will rush u and thats when kasier has some trouble (but still can win since epic turningforce+50k dmg salvos))

  • Re : UK or ITALY for BB ?

    09. 26. 2012 04:00


Sumi808

KM was my second nation - IJN was my first. IJN I found very very hard being BB. Not a good nation to start as for BB, but great for SS and CV as ur first nation.

KM is great to start as for BB, because KM is all about skill. It dont have anything going for it that you can utilise to your advantage without skill. Their speed, range all depend on how u use them and only become obvious when used by someone who is decent, because these advantages are so slim. But when given to someone with skill they become very obvious advantages.

Having said that, I have had alot of bad losses, even in my BB5. Its heavy, slow, fat, bad spread but its mine and as I get better so will the boat. And I regularly get 80k + in it per game atm

KM is good nation to start BB as well, because u really learn how to use AA, something that will set you apart from the rest of the NF herd of BBs

  • Re : UK or ITALY for BB ?

    09. 26. 2012 17:56


jotabe

go for UK all the way!!!

 

L2 its best BB5 ever, strong, fast, hard punch good range. it has no backdraws against other BBs and u can armorwhore it.

the only "bad thing" about UK are SS... they can an will hunt u down first to every other nation just because of UK's shitty Bulge.

UK is for non-skilled players, any average player (like myself at BB lol) can make 100 to 150k every battle with a L2

 

RM its a great nation, fast ships good range and lazor beam angle cannon, but there will be a nerf, so nobody really knows what's gonna be after that...

 

For any other Nation:
US: fun BB's but BB4 and BB5 have low range (compared with same tier) and high angle, on the other hand they have a great punch. Best (along with UK's) BB6 around.

IJN: not so fun BB, they have a great punch, at the cost of low range, fat ass and glass jaw.

KM: good range, good AA and nowadays decent punch (at BB5) but really need skills as they are not so fast and quite fragile.

MN: shitty range, but great speed and hardest punch ever. fun for play as they are all-or-nothing playstyle BB's

SN: can't really argue, haven't tested

 

  • Re : UK or ITALY for BB ?

    10. 18. 2012 10:14


Mezak76

Originally Posted by Nihonjin

Originally Posted by firezmissles

Originally Posted by Nihonjin

Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

These guys know nothing..In terms of BBs i always think about BB6 because thats the ultimate goal. And Italy has the better of the 2. UK has a Dominant BB5. RM BB5 am sure will not get nerf might get a Spread buff, but BB4 will be nerf. If i was in your position i'll go UK only becaused its a finished Product and what you see is what you get.

 

Your next Nation should be KM. Best BB6/BB5 And it requires skills. It will help you to grow as a BB player ( Well some players grow).



HAHA...YOU obviously know nothing. KM is considered to be the 2nd worst BB6/BB5. It can be "good" if the user is highly experienced and has excellent sight all game...good luck with that. RM nerf will be glorious!

@onurs

You should definitely go through and read as many posts as you can about each nation and decide which one you like. UK is not a bad choice at all.

I like this post, it clearly screams "I am terrible at BB play". You're the one who knows nothing if you think range is meaningless. You can keep poking at someone until they sink or have one salvo on them before they even get in range.



Range is great! At no point did I say range was meaningless...but apparently you are reading ghost text somewhere.

Range is awesome when you have sight over enemy for the duration of the game...which is rare. So range is very very CONDITIONAL. Besides, what idiot charges an H44 in plain sight?? You obviously would. Without constant sight your CENTIMETER range advantage is nothing. Especially when your H44 spread sucks as you are turned and running in the opposite direction. So clearly YOU "are terrible at BB play". This is why KM is a difficult nation and not advised for true beginners.

Think before you speak. Next.



Every idiot with a Nelson can charge against a H44 and sink it, plain sight, no sight. H44 had a little guns upgrade , have better dmg but remains slow and unprotected. I wont say nothing about range, is useless.
Strongest point of H44 is AA.
I play KM, but following the information in forum started a UK line. UK players complain all the time a demand nerf everything else, e.g, regia marina.

  • Re : UK or ITALY for BB ?

    10. 25. 2012 20:31


FalleNStaR

 

  I swear RM can sling a boat width further than KM right now.

 

 Low level grind for UK is easier than KM. Once you hit Opro KM gets alot better whereas once you hit Renown with UK it gets bleh till L1. You went the right line for a first time UKer. If you want a taste of KM play Vanguard on your next UK BO instead of Lion1.

  • Re : UK or ITALY for BB ?

    10. 26. 2012 05:12


Lord_Tyrael

Originally Posted by Nihonjin

Originally Posted by firezmissles

Originally Posted by Nihonjin

Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

These guys know nothing..In terms of BBs i always think about BB6 because thats the ultimate goal. And Italy has the better of the 2. UK has a Dominant BB5. RM BB5 am sure will not get nerf might get a Spread buff, but BB4 will be nerf. If i was in your position i'll go UK only becaused its a finished Product and what you see is what you get.

 

Your next Nation should be KM. Best BB6/BB5 And it requires skills. It will help you to grow as a BB player ( Well some players grow).



HAHA...YOU obviously know nothing. KM is considered to be the 2nd worst BB6/BB5. It can be "good" if the user is highly experienced and has excellent sight all game...good luck with that. RM nerf will be glorious!

@onurs

You should definitely go through and read as many posts as you can about each nation and decide which one you like. UK is not a bad choice at all.

I like this post, it clearly screams "I am terrible at BB play". You're the one who knows nothing if you think range is meaningless. You can keep poking at someone until they sink or have one salvo on them before they even get in range.



Range is great! At no point did I say range was meaningless...but apparently you are reading ghost text somewhere.

Range is awesome when you have sight over enemy for the duration of the game...which is rare. So range is very very CONDITIONAL. Besides, what idiot charges an H44 in plain sight?? You obviously would. Without constant sight your CENTIMETER range advantage is nothing. Especially when your H44 spread sucks as you are turned and running in the opposite direction. So clearly YOU "are terrible at BB play". This is why KM is a difficult nation and not advised for true beginners.

Think before you speak. Next.



lol seriously? conditional?  we are talking about bb play right?  a good h44 bb player will never  allow himself to lost sight of his enemy. established bb players will always bring 2 scouts to any bb play. and if you CONTROL your scout being blind will never be an issue even if your against  ijn/mn aa. 

no doubt KM is a difficult nation for beginners. every people will agree on that but it doesnt mean that being difficult makes it 2nd worst bb5/6 nation. its completely untrue.  being a km player bb player  maximizes all other aspects of the BB game play in able to dominate. use of OH. slingshot, scout management, RANGE. physics, position etc  it doesnt really to FIREPOWER, ARMOR and SPEED.

The KM bb5/6 ship will teach the player how to be good bb player. It will make the player be aware of all the other aspect of bb gameplay and range as its main weapon. This makes it one of the best if probably the best bb nation in this game. 

@ orignal thread maker.

go UK grind 2 bo's its the easiest nation to grind.  qv is a great beginner bb6

  • Re : UK or ITALY for BB ?

    12. 01. 2012 11:01


AGGELOS6



Take another thing into consideration

In the past , my first bb6 was qv, i really struggled though to reach the credits and the money to armour the bb4-5 classes

Anyhow if you are out of bb experience i suggest play RN either USN

If you believe you will reach the skill so fast go km and you ll enjoy the game more!!!
But km shells are low damage as like the armor of the ships is like paper 

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