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  • What the SS5 and eventually SS6 should be. Also special subs for Japan

    07. 07. 2011 02:56

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Baker654
With SS5 comming out I hope that the NF development team had paid attention to my SS suggestion on the old forum
Also I think that Japan instead of tier 5 and 6 subs they instead get to chose special projects which at the moment include the I-201 Sen Taka desiel-electric sub and the I-400 Sen Toku  carrier sub

SS5:
US: Narwhal (4 forward torpedo tubes, 2 rear torpedo tubes, 1 5" gun) DP: 21000
UK: Trition (4 forward torpedo tubes, 2 rear torpedo tubes, 1 4" gun) DP: 19600
KM: Type IXC (4 forwar torpedo Tubes, 2 rear torpedo tubes, 1 4.1" gun) DP: 20200
MN: L'Aurore (4 forward torpedo tube, 2 aft torpedo tubes, one 4" gun) DP: 20400
SN: Project 97 (improved S class) (4 forward torpedo tube, 2 aft torpedo tubes, one 4" gun) DP: 20000

SS6:
US: Gato (6 forward torpedos, 4 aft torpedos, 1 5"gun) DP: 23800
UK: Amphion (6 forward torpedos, 4 aft torpedos, 1 4" gun) DP: 21500
KM: Type XXI (sorry no snorkel) (6 forward torpedos, 4 aft torpedos (note the Real type XXI had less torpedo tubes and no guns), 1 4" gun) DP: 22400
MN: Surcouf (8 forward torpedos, 4 aft torpedos (I dont really know who the Surcouf's tubes were laid out), 2 8" guns(the guns would have less damage bonus than the smaller deck guns of other subs) DP: 23600, Note: The Surcouf takes longer to dive than most other submarines with the only exception being the I-400
SN: K class (6 forward torpedo tubes, 2 aft tubes, 2 4" guns)

Special Japanese Subs. the Special Japanes Subs will have special ability
I-201 Sen Taka (4 forward torpedo tubes) Special Abilities: able to go a fast as 35 km/h underwater and 29/km surfaced. Has snorkel which can be turned on so that the sub can recharge while under water but this makes the sub easier to detect.) DP: 22800
I-400 Sen Toku (8 forward torpedo tubes, 1 5.51" gun) Airspace/(Flight Deck): 1250/ (3). Special Abilities when on the surface the I-400 can act as an Oyodo and can launch scouts and torpedo bombers. The i-400 is slower to crash dive than other subs. DP: 24200

I am thinking about a modified HEI-1 that can launch Type A Ko-hyoteki midget. These midget subs act as underwater torpedo bombers that can launch up to two torpedo then they have go back to the mother submarine to reload. These midget subs have a dp of 100 so they are very fragile a single hit would sink them.

 

  • Re : What the SS5 and eventually SS6 should be. Also special subs for Japan

    07. 08. 2011 21:29


chivalry1978
At one point in the war the i-400 series of subs was being considered to be a biological/gas warfare platform. So keeping with that. I say the the bombers it launches will drop aoe sd reducing bombs basicly it drops a yellow cloud any ship in it gets dot that only affects there sd and maybe engine speed. this debuff last until end of match.

Now you will say ok it lowers sd so....Well less sd means big bb6's will end up taking more damage and or burn faster.....

The other idea is it applies a damage debuff based off the sd of a ship more people you have the more that can die from exposure and thus act as dot on the ships dp. Now here is the thing since this does no real damage to the ship per say it can be repaired up to full

Other idea all ships caught in claude suffer a stat penalty....just a couple of ideas.

  • Re : What the SS5 and eventually SS6 should be. Also special subs for Japan

    07. 11. 2011 05:09


Baker654
i am not sure if NF would approve of chemical and biological warfare in their game

  • Re : What the SS5 and eventually SS6 should be. Also special subs for Japan

    07. 11. 2011 06:10


Rick5000
Originally Posted by Baker654
Originally Posted by Rick5000
8 front 4 rear, would be overpowered.
Would BB have underrwater nuke then?
IJN should just have a ss5-6


Thats is my guess of the Surcouf's actual amount of torpedo tubes as she really did have 10 torpedo tubes. 6 of them were for 22 in torpedos and the rest were 16 in torpedos. Give the Japs some coolness by break from standard game line



No,
IJN would be underpowered if ss5-6 have 8 front 4 rear
Just make the next ss5/6 more DP, 1 or 2 more torp launchers or a deck gun/longer air.

  • Re : What the SS5 and eventually SS6 should be. Also special subs for Japan

    07. 11. 2011 07:25


saub0010
Is there any information at what lvl you would be able to class an SS5 and SS6. Any consideration to a Premium SS (PSS) lvl 104-106, for purchase from NF store.

  • Re : What the SS5 and eventually SS6 should be. Also special subs for Japan

    07. 11. 2011 08:04


silentsubusa
Lvls for them would be roughly the same as the BB 5 and 6. PSS, same story maybe?

Baker, since when was the sentaka electric?

Here is my handfull of stones thrown at this topic for what its worth:

I200
[img]http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l485/silentsubusa/I200-1.jpg[img]

Narwal
[IMG]http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l485/silentsubusa/Narwhal.jpg[/IMG]

I400
[IMG]http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l485/silentsubusa/I400WIP.jpg[/IMG]

IXD


I dont plan to finish these because it sounds like the official version is on the way so anything i produce is useless.





EDIT: how do i post pics?

  • Re : What the SS5 and eventually SS6 should be. Also special subs for Japan

    07. 11. 2011 19:06


Baker654
Originally Posted by Rick5000
Originally Posted by Baker654
Originally Posted by Rick5000
8 front 4 rear, would be overpowered.
Would BB have underrwater nuke then?
IJN should just have a ss5-6


Thats is my guess of the Surcouf's actual amount of torpedo tubes as she really did have 10 torpedo tubes. 6 of them were for 22 in torpedos and the rest were 16 in torpedos. Give the Japs some coolness by break from standard game line



No,
IJN would be underpowered if ss5-6 have 8 front 4 rear
Just make the next ss5/6 more DP, 1 or 2 more torp launchers or a deck gun/longer air.



The reason why the IJN SS lack rear torps is because of their design philosophy the Japanese dislike retreating from battle so having all torps on the front encourages the submariners to keep pointing towards the enemy

  • Re : What the SS5 and eventually SS6 should be. Also special subs for Japan

    07. 11. 2011 22:51


Piombo
Originally Posted by chivalry1978
At one point in the war the i-400 series of subs was being considered to be a biological/gas warfare platform. So keeping with that. I say the the bombers it launches will drop aoe sd reducing bombs basicly it drops a yellow cloud any ship in it gets dot that only affects there sd and maybe engine speed. this debuff last until end of match.

Now you will say ok it lowers sd so....Well less sd means big bb6's will end up taking more damage and or burn faster.....

The other idea is it applies a damage debuff based off the sd of a ship more people you have the more that can die from exposure and thus act as dot on the ships dp. Now here is the thing since this does no real damage to the ship per say it can be repaired up to full

Other idea all ships caught in claude suffer a stat penalty....just a couple of ideas.


to add to this thought on yellow mustard gas cloud it kills mass sailors Vets Exp and rookies say 50-80 at a time and you gain exp and ect like when you kill ppl sailors from AA or 1shot super crit hits

mwahahahahahahahahaaaa

  • Re : What the SS5 and eventually SS6 should be. Also special subs for Japan

    07. 31. 2011 03:00


Baker654
who wants to post more on this

  • Re : What the SS5 and eventually SS6 should be. Also special subs for Japan

    08. 06. 2011 20:40


silentsubusa
I do. US ss5 is gato, UK ss5 is the M class, MN is the Surcouf, IJN is the A class, and soviet is the D class, these need to be changed in the original post. Also could i say to change the US and MN SS6?

  • Re : What the SS5 and eventually SS6 should be. Also special subs for Japan

    08. 24. 2011 03:06


Baker654
no

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