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  • Do not release SS5's until SS Balance goes through the test team.

    09. 05. 2011 16:03

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free3play
Else to many BB/CV players will leave the game meaning that games wont start, as its Captial Ships that start the game not supports.

They will also be horribly overpowered, and relying on Other OP weapons to kill they is stupid.

 

  • Re : Do not release SS5's until SS Balance goes through the test team.

    09. 05. 2011 18:57


ljsevern
Originally Posted by devildog8

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by devildog8

im just saying free is that LJs got locked because this is a hot subject that both sides feel alot about, and to keep reopening it just to open it, seem ridiculas to me, but I guess any drama is good drama i guess


It got locked because SK Bismarck is biased. Not because the thread was against the rules.


yeah everyone is always bias to you LJ, poor LJ, maybe because your topic became a flame war, just like this one will....oh excuse me has


My thread didn't break rules, the only flaming was from a certain few individuals. That is what the hide function is for.

Feel free to stop posting dribble. I look forward to when the servers are remerged lol.

  • Re : Do not release SS5's until SS Balance goes through the test team.

    09. 05. 2011 18:57


ljsevern
Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by devildog8

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by devildog8

im just saying free is that LJs got locked because this is a hot subject that both sides feel alot about, and to keep reopening it just to open it, seem ridiculas to me, but I guess any drama is good drama i guess


It got locked because SK Bismarck is biased. Not because the thread was against the rules.


yeah everyone is always bias to you LJ, poor LJ, maybe because your topic became a flame war, just like this one will....oh excuse me has


I saw SK bismarck doing nothing wrong. He just gave his point of view and opinion, but was taken as Bia.


He gave his point of view, then locked threads that disagreed with him when no rules were broken. He even accused me of trolling which is against the forum rules.

  • Re : Do not release SS5's until SS Balance goes through the test team.

    09. 05. 2011 19:01


ljsevern
Originally Posted by devildog8

Originally Posted by free3play

Originally Posted by devildog8

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by devildog8

yeah everyone is always bias to you LJ, poor LJ, maybe because your topic became a flame war, just like this one will....oh excuse me has


I saw SK bismarck doing nothing wrong. He just gave his point of view and opinion, but was taken as Bia.



nobody said it was against the rules, but it was a insult feast that needed to be closed, I believe he did his job, now I will say im on board with what you say, but the way your going about it is wrong


So instead we should take Leaderwolfs example and delete a thread everytime it gets locked?

Or maybe sit back and watch the game die?

No.

Arguments always get heated when people cant accept they are wrong, and lukas is rarely wrong as he looks at facts.

Has lukas been a good thing to the community, Hell yes. Have people always tried to stop him with their drivel, yes. look at the Crap AH posted on the fleet war topics a few months ago.


I have never said that LJ doesnt have the communitys fair play at heart, I would never make that statement, but what I will say sitting here arguing with ppl to prove his point, when he knows most wont listen is usless, might as well write it on a wall and try and get a better response

all im saying is let them come out as is, we all know they will be ridiculasly OPed, im sure of it, but lets deal with it then when you have more support, his 17 recs and pages of insults and arguments got him no where but his thread locked, as im sure will this one as soon as the mods look at it

there is a time for everything this is not that time, let gather out thoughts and come back at it when its needed, and yes before the argument we are trying to keep the OPed stuff out first, I think you all know how that ends up

on a side note...who the hell cares what alstien thinks...nobody thats who


No, I won't let overpowered content be released. I will fight as hard as I can to have balanced content. If they get released, then I will be saying I told you so. All it takes is a FM to hide insults, there is no reason to lock a perfectly valid and within the rules thread.

I don't care if people don't listen, because I know that 99% of the time, I am right. I've proven that countless times. If you read the ONF forums and any thread about the Nebraska fleet league, you will see the same people (AH/CS Fleet) all grouping together to insult me and disrupt the forums.

Its the same every single time. Someone is even making dummy accounts under my name and insulting people just to try and get me banned. And what is being done? Nothing, apart from SK Bismarck locking a perfectly valid thread of mine.

With people like him on the FM team, the forums are a complete joke, and if SS5 are released without a major rebalance, so is the game.

  • Re : Do not release SS5's until SS Balance goes through the test team.

    09. 05. 2011 19:02


ljsevern
Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by free3play

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by free3play

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Dont you think CVs are being harrased good enough, the way how they play? isnt lack of cvs when theeirs no event, a good sign, anything is going wrong? in every battle, there is criticism against every single cv players, because of the game lose.As same for submarines, calling us Skiless players that cannot play something else, by BB players, who is expecting cvs to do everything for them, and SS to be weaker than them, and gain once again the almighty status.



Compare that to the kind of things the group i belong to in a large Internet spaceship MMO get on a regular basis.

NSFW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CzyCCySLec



I do not compare things that doesnt concern NF. and i know, submarines are not the main reason. If i ask you , did players left NF, because the French DB were overpowered? Obviously No.



Many of the old guard left stating there reason as subs, that is a fact. Did some quit from the DBs proberly. Did some quit over the SN BBs and the retardation of them, proberly.



You are forgetting Many more due to lag, bugs, crashes and all that stuff. we are talking about 55% or more. This is a fact.


People need to get better ISP's and computers. I rarely crash, and rarely get lag. Server side lag is pretty much non existant.

  • Re : Do not release SS5's until SS Balance goes through the test team.

    09. 05. 2011 19:07


Humberto20
Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by devildog8

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by devildog8

im just saying free is that LJs got locked because this is a hot subject that both sides feel alot about, and to keep reopening it just to open it, seem ridiculas to me, but I guess any drama is good drama i guess


It got locked because SK Bismarck is biased. Not because the thread was against the rules.


yeah everyone is always bias to you LJ, poor LJ, maybe because your topic became a flame war, just like this one will....oh excuse me has


I saw SK bismarck doing nothing wrong. He just gave his point of view and opinion, but was taken as Bia.


He gave his point of view, then locked threads that disagreed with him when no rules were broken. He even accused me of trolling which is against the forum rules.



He is a Mod, and he has the right to lock any thread with or without any notice as you agreed with forum rules.. Obviously, you asked the Moderation team or TNF, to remove him from that, inpublic. And that, is obviously breaking the rules. I still didnt see anything wrong, if he locked the thread, was due to flamming which he didnt do. Accusing is not trolling, he is pointing at your faults.Im not going to discuss this anymore, because is not my problem.

at Free3play

Of yes of course, but the story is other.

  • Re : Do not release SS5's until SS Balance goes through the test team.

    09. 05. 2011 19:12


ljsevern
Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by devildog8

Originally Posted by ljsevern

It got locked because SK Bismarck is biased. Not because the thread was against the rules.


yeah everyone is always bias to you LJ, poor LJ, maybe because your topic became a flame war, just like this one will....oh excuse me has


I saw SK bismarck doing nothing wrong. He just gave his point of view and opinion, but was taken as Bia.


He gave his point of view, then locked threads that disagreed with him when no rules were broken. He even accused me of trolling which is against the forum rules.



He is a Mod, and he has the right to lock any thread with or without any notice as you agreed with forum rules.. Obviously, you asked the Moderation team or TNF, to remove him from that, inpublic. And that, is obviously breaking the rules. I still didnt see anything wrong, if he locked the thread, was due to flamming which he didnt do. Accusing is not trolling, he is pointing at your faults.Im not going to discuss this anymore, because is not my problem.

at Free3play

Of yes of course, but the story is other.


Actually, that is wrong. He isn't allowed to lock a thread that isn't breaking rules. I will also be emailing the GM's. He accused me of being a troll and it SPECIFICALLY says in the rules this it not allowed.

He accused me of insulting Cracko, when I did not; Yet Cracko was.

If you also read the ONF forums and fleet league topics, you will see exactly what it is about.

I did not flame in that thread, or my posts in that thread. SK Bismarck locked it because he didn't like the suggestion.

Its obvious, everyone can see it; I wonder if you would be agreeing to him if he was locking suggestions that were calling for subs to stay as they are. I doubt it.

  • Re : Do not release SS5's until SS Balance goes through the test team.

    09. 05. 2011 19:28


aingeal
Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by devildog8

yeah everyone is always bias to you LJ, poor LJ, maybe because your topic became a flame war, just like this one will....oh excuse me has


I saw SK bismarck doing nothing wrong. He just gave his point of view and opinion, but was taken as Bia.


He gave his point of view, then locked threads that disagreed with him when no rules were broken. He even accused me of trolling which is against the forum rules.



He is a Mod, and he has the right to lock any thread with or without any notice as you agreed with forum rules.. Obviously, you asked the Moderation team or TNF, to remove him from that, inpublic. And that, is obviously breaking the rules. I still didnt see anything wrong, if he locked the thread, was due to flamming which he didnt do. Accusing is not trolling, he is pointing at your faults.Im not going to discuss this anymore, because is not my problem.

at Free3play

Of yes of course, but the story is other.


Actually, that is wrong. He isn't allowed to lock a thread that isn't breaking rules. I will also be emailing the GM's. He accused me of being a troll and it SPECIFICALLY says in the rules this it not allowed.

He accused me of insulting Cracko, when I did not; Yet Cracko was.

If you also read the ONF forums and fleet league topics, you will see exactly what it is about.

I did not flame in that thread, or my posts in that thread. SK Bismarck locked it because he didn't like the suggestion.

Its obvious, everyone can see it; I wonder if you would be agreeing to him if he was locking suggestions that were calling for subs to stay as they are. I doubt it.



Gotta say it is suspect at least that we argued a few points against SK in the test server section a day, telling him he is wrong, then suddenly the day after he locks a thread concerning the same topic in Suggestion, started by someone who had argued against him. The discussion was still on course, with a few flames from only a few people.

Sadly, bombing the house to kill a mouse inside is prolly satisfying if you didn't like the house in the first place.


I'm honestly tired of arguing about that topic, since as soon as we'll disagree with someone and HE starts flaming the whole topic will be locked and we'll need to start it again.

I,m afraid on that particular issue, the Mod action harmed the discussion rather than help it, which would be the case if it truly had been closed down due to flames. Unless I'm totally mistaken, such an action should only happens if flames have grown to a point the topic cannot be salvaged by any other means, and that the flames are actually harming the topic.

Especially a topic that has 100 replies, 90% of which are relevant, and 17 recommandations.

  • Re : Do not release SS5's until SS Balance goes through the test team.

    09. 05. 2011 19:48


ljsevern
And do you know what it stems from?

People wanted me to run the fleet league, not him, and he's jealous at that.

He also has some sort of hatred for AZ and Jedi, same with his buddies Sylver and Cracko.

You should see some of their posts on the onf site...

  • Re : Do not release SS5's until SS Balance goes through the test team.

    09. 05. 2011 20:33


Humberto20
Originally Posted by ljsevern

And do you know what it stems from?

People wanted me to run the fleet league, not him, and he's jealous at that.

He also has some sort of hatred for AZ and Jedi, same with his buddies Sylver and Cracko.

You should see some of their posts on the onf site...



"Dont complaint now, for what you did before"

  • Re : Do not release SS5's until SS Balance goes through the test team.

    09. 05. 2011 20:35


ljsevern
Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by ljsevern

And do you know what it stems from?

People wanted me to run the fleet league, not him, and he's jealous at that.

He also has some sort of hatred for AZ and Jedi, same with his buddies Sylver and Cracko.

You should see some of their posts on the onf site...



"Dont complaint now, for what you did before"


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