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  • Premium locals

    09. 12. 2011 21:36

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Eradicator1
Sell T2 Premium locals level 61-75ish that function at about t3.5 level maybe even t4 since without good pilots they will be bad anyway.

250 for $2
Space about 150-200 to encourage not just spamming them and trying to use other planes to compliment them such as TB, DB, scout

This will give some newer cvs some decent fighters so they won't get instantly slaughered in GB and give SDE some money, since who doesn't like money?

For people who say that locals ruin the game I don't think that this would affect too much it would simply allow cv2/3 to be something other than food.

 

  • Re : Premium locals

    09. 14. 2011 23:08


aingeal
Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by aingeal

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by KingCong

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

T4s trash locals


Stat wise they can fight each other evenly

T4 trash locals because T4 naturally have at least lvl 100, locals at most have lvl 75.

In most cases T4 players can micro their planes better than locals anyway.

A good local CV who drags can kill T4 with simple pilots. Even I can do that.

Buffing locals will make no difference. Because they can already oneshot T4

Well then something slightly above T4 to compensate for shitty pilots


There is something that exist to compensate shitty pilots.

Experts and vet packs.

Having lvl 60-75 or so thrashing lvl 100 planes is massive balance issue. Locals have been created to give lower level CVs a better fighting chance against higher level plane, but a well managed T4 squad should rip through any local cloud. Otherwise, why bother leveling to PCV?

It's a buffer to a class with a massive leveling disparity.

You can put infinity vets onto a level 60-70 fighter and it will still lose against a T4 pilot with 50 vets.

Planes factor too much into who wins in a cv contest. If it were me playing a cv2 or 3 I would immediately stop playing it.

That's probably why you don't see me (or anyone else really) in a lower level cv ever.

Also I never said anything about shredding T4 planes I said put a plane with MANY limitations that could fight on par with T4 planes. It would have a level cap to prevent imba.

The things you are getting by leveling to T4 are all the things that locals lack; ammo, flight time, scoutingness, etc.


first, you are limited to 40% vets at all time. Go back studying your NF manuals.

Even if it was true, lvl 100 engies with 50 vets still outperform a level 70 one with 109 vets, I'm quite sure. Lvl 100 gunners with 50 vets way outperform a lvl 70 gunners with 150 vets.

Your argument is invalid.

Lower level CVs should be at a disadvantage versus higher level one, obviously. There are other ways to counter them than to blindly throw fighters against their superior ones. Use your brain a bit, find a way around those fighter. Most CV players just spam planes around, not caring much about them. Avoid them, kill scouts and bombers etc.

You don't see BB1-2 having a gun with BB5 range, no matter what limitation you put on it. To take out a BB5 with a BB2, you'd need to be extremely smart about it, most of the time.


Also I liked that :



Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Lol I don't even play cvs


Funny. We recruited you in GoD as a CV players when I was an officer there about a year and a half ago. Much to my opposition I must say.

Account sale ftw?

  • Re : Premium locals

    09. 15. 2011 09:53


Maistral
it's you again.

and again, hell no.

  • Re : Premium locals

    09. 15. 2011 14:51


Eradicator1
Originally Posted by aingeal

first, you are limited to 40% vets at all time. Go back studying your NF manuals.


The point was that no matter how many vets you have higher levels will still out perform. Someone doesn't understand hyperbole.

Originally Posted by aingeal

Lower level CVs should be at a disadvantage versus higher level one, obviously. There are other ways to counter them than to blindly throw fighters against their superior ones. Use your brain a bit, find a way around those fighter. Most CV players just spam planes around, not caring much about them. Avoid them, kill scouts and bombers etc.


I think that Locals at a T4 level of firepower would still have significant disadvantages that would bar their use except in certain situations.

You said it yourself; most CV players just spam planes around, not caring much about them.

Level disparity causes laziness in players. You can click once with your T4s and annihilate T2/3 with ZERO losses. There has to be a limit to how well you can click once and win.

T4 locals would provide the way to allow for somewhat competitive lower level cvs.

It would give them the tools to fight against them but without micro they would be substantially worse than T4s due to the pilot differences (vets/experts/fighterstat).

  • Re : Premium locals

    09. 16. 2011 05:27


B_Duck
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

no seriously? idiot.

  • Re : Premium locals

    09. 16. 2011 13:36


aingeal
Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by aingeal

first, you are limited to 40% vets at all time. Go back studying your NF manuals.


The point was that no matter how many vets you have higher levels will still out perform. Someone doesn't understand hyperbole.

Originally Posted by aingeal

Lower level CVs should be at a disadvantage versus higher level one, obviously. There are other ways to counter them than to blindly throw fighters against their superior ones. Use your brain a bit, find a way around those fighter. Most CV players just spam planes around, not caring much about them. Avoid them, kill scouts and bombers etc.


I think that Locals at a T4 level of firepower would still have significant disadvantages that would bar their use except in certain situations.

You said it yourself; most CV players just spam planes around, not caring much about them.

Level disparity causes laziness in players. You can click once with your T4s and annihilate T2/3 with ZERO losses. There has to be a limit to how well you can click once and win.

T4 locals would provide the way to allow for somewhat competitive lower level cvs.

It would give them the tools to fight against them but without micro they would be substantially worse than T4s due to the pilot differences (vets/experts/fighterstat).


Seriously, trying to explain something to you is hard since you look, but you do not read.

In the game of "my epeen is bigger than yours" level counts for a LOT. You cannot go rambo against a CV5 in a CV1, you cannot go rambo on a BB5 with a BB1. Heck thats not hard to understand. You cannot have similar capacities at level 65 than you get at lvl 100. If 2 CVs blindly pit fighter against each others, the lvl 100 squad should wipe out the lvl 60 one. Vets start mattering when you are thinking T4 vs T4, really.


You are saying level disparity cause laziness in CV, and yes it's true. However why the heck is this a revelant argument for your suggestion? It's a call for lower level CVs to also apply the Easy Button, and win.

Your point doesnt make sense.

Vets and experts are a way to optimize your crew performance, not overcome 40 levels. Thats why there is the 40% vet cap you seem to have overlooked, because you wanted to post an exageration. So people don't have 100% vetted lvl 60 fighter that beats lvl 100 ones.

So I repeat, to beat something higher level than yours, sure, vets can help a bit, seeing as you maximize your own performance, but that max performance shouldn't be on par to an average 40 level higher capabilities. The lacks in bluntness efficiency, you make up by cunning. If the PCV is also smart, then you lose.

  • Re : Premium locals

    09. 16. 2011 15:45


Eradicator1
Locals would have firepower of T4s but would otherwise be terrible in all aspects. Lower level cvs would still need to outmicro higher level cvs in order to kill planes due to differences in the pilots themselves.

I don't see how this is "compete with a CV5 as soon as you get a CV1"

As it is there is NO way at all to beat T4 fighters with T2 fighters.

This problem is also compounded because any cv with fighters does not gain exp for scouting and thus why should he scout? For higher cvs they get kills just for clicking above enemy cvs

  • Re : Premium locals

    09. 16. 2011 16:17


aingeal
Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Locals would have firepower of T4s but would otherwise be terrible in all aspects. Lower level cvs would still need to outmicro higher level cvs in order to kill planes due to differences in the pilots themselves.

I don't see how this is "compete with a CV5 as soon as you get a CV1"

As it is there is NO way at all to beat T4 fighters with T2 fighters.

This problem is also compounded because any cv with fighters does not gain exp for scouting and thus why should he scout? For higher cvs they get kills just for clicking above enemy cvs


Again, you don't see BB2 going into a line battle with BB5. CVs planes all have pretty much the same endurance, T1 having the highest, they varies in speed and firepower. Their abilities advantage therefore is the air superiority they can bring.

You also fail to understand how you "beat" those CVs.

It's not by beating their fighters directly, you need to thwart their attempts at grounding you, find a place to sneak your own planes, bomb them etc. hjave them fail to totally own the sky, by keeping your planes alive. Make sure their bombers never reach your lines, that your team bombers sneak past the cover, that no matter how they try, your planes and your team always find a way to see.

Its another type of battle. You've said yourself you as the new account owner weren't a CV player (so I take it you are a BB player who bought the account to have a CV, seeing as eradicator was a mainly CV player) don't try to apply the same balance dynamic that BB vs BB got.

  • Re : Premium locals

    09. 16. 2011 16:48


KingCong
this whole thread you guys keep mentioning that you try to have your T2 fight T4.

If you were a half decent CV player you should know your limitations as a T2 and still be a proficient CV player.
>Drag all day to give vision
>Do not engage enemy planes if you know youre gonna get trashed
>Avoid enemy fighters by moving them away from enemy clusters
>Dont put all your eggs in 1 basket. Spread out your fighters so they dont all get trashed at once.
>Move your ship around so you dont get fighter camped.

In any of the above suggestions no where does your own fighter's firepower come into play.

  • Re : Premium locals

    09. 16. 2011 18:00


Eradicator1
Originally Posted by KingCong

this whole thread you guys keep mentioning that you try to have your T2 fight T4.

If you were a half decent CV player you should know your limitations as a T2 and still be a proficient CV player.
>Drag all day to give vision
>Do not engage enemy planes if you know youre gonna get trashed
>Avoid enemy fighters by moving them away from enemy clusters
>Dont put all your eggs in 1 basket. Spread out your fighters so they dont all get trashed at once.
>Move your ship around so you dont get fighter camped.

In any of the above suggestions no where does your own fighter's firepower come into play.

1. Have fun dragging and losing anyway since your planes can't dent T4s and get shot down anyway because you're slower
2. So don't launch planes at all. Nice advice
3. When they follow you and go faster it's NOPE
4. You'd just get destroyed faster
5. This isn't the issue

  • Re : Premium locals

    09. 16. 2011 20:08


Lionel2
Sorry but this whole idea just doesn't work. Locals are like a set of training wheel's on a kids bike. You take them off when they learn how to ride. If you notice, the training wheels don't let the bike ride perfectly straight, they just keep the kid from comletely falling down. Premium locals wouldn't let the newbies learn how to fly for real. They'd end up like my little sister riding an f'd up bike all crooked and screwed up on training wheels when everyone else is grown up.

Let it go, this won't fly (literally)

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