Nope. And I could really care less about them, I get sunk by them these days, lol. I may finish up getting all of the SS4 one of these days if I can force myself to do it, but not likely. SS aren't a cosmetic change to graphics during an event with unexpected negative consequences, they are just part of the game. If these two things were at all similar , it would be different, but , alas, this issue and SS are nothing alike. But nice to have you show up beating the SS drum, as always, I'm a HUGE fan ^^

My point for SS is: You have spent what must be a HUGE chunk of time typing into the forums the list of all the things you've done, ships you have, modded crews you own, etc, trying to prove that you're 'better' than most of the people you are arguing with, thus diminishing their argument (in your mind). BUT when many , many, players who have FAR less skill or time in this game have no issues, then why can't some who is "sooper dooper elite" like you not deal with it? I killed an SS yesterday with my main guns, just ran after he hit me with 4 torps, he chased (foolishly) and I waited for him to run out of air. They turn into pumpkins at midnite LJ, and you know this, lol. Then I killed him. Then another SS I didnt see finished me off. FYI I didnt run to the forums and demand action. If you don't load AA and get DB, whose fault? Do we nerf them? Oops, already been there huh?

PS.... I have enjoyed debating with you, and I know, at times, everyone can be a bit dramatic, but I'll say here and now, I harbor ZERO true ill will for any of those I spar with here. We're all just normal dudes who love gaming and have passionate views about certain aspects of the game. I also give you props for doing the things you do for NF, much of it thankless, and quite a bit of it drawing full on outrage. We just have differing views on a few things, mainly SS representation in Fleetwars and your insistence that SS are OP. I feel yes, SS are a tad OP in GB, but ONLY due to a lack of team cohesion and fleet setup in GB. You just cant count on good ASW and team coordination in those rooms. That's why I feel full ss power belongs in fleetwar, since you can actually plan for and coordinate ASW, thus removing the very worst of the SS onslaught. But that's my 2 cents.

and at otto get in a sub and try it your self
the test of richard wher just that a test
a test is not the real deal

I own modded crews? I wish.

I don't need to prove I am better than other people, because I am. I like educating people to be better players and people. If someone comes up with a good idea or a good counterpoint, I say so. Its just rare that people do.

I hit a sub with a full salvo from my L1 today. Still in the green.

If you actually think Subs aren't overpowered, even after all the evidence that has been prevented, then I feel really sorry for you. It doesn't matter (excluding premium content) what an ASW ship throws at you; You can avoid it in a sub. Competitive or not.

I've had plenty of arguments/debates on here with people, but at the end of the day too many people take things personally. However it does baffle me how anyone can actually insist subs shouldn't be changed.

1- PHH reloading time is wayyyy to fast, in good hands, there is no chance to move away.