Have you ever heard of trading advantages vs disadvantages

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Adjective:

1. Not fulfilling or not expected to achieve the intended purpose or desired outcome.
2. Having no ability or skill in a specified activity or area: "he was useless at football".

While I can't say that it has no ability at all, it doesn't perform compared to other sailors that could be placed.

It's obvious that you're grasping for straws

btw if you're so adamant about burden of proof then prove your claim that seaman increases accuracy.

Yes I have heard of trading advantages and disadvantages. And you do so in this game.

You defined a seaman as useless, yet I provided a number of uses for the sailor.

You are the one grasping at straws. You are the one not providing proof.

As I have said plenty of times in this thread, yes, things could be tweaked to iterate the sailor system. However, it is probably too late in the games life to make such a major change and ruin everyone's crews. The current system isn't broken in any huge way. There are advantages and disadvantages to each kind of setup. And sure, some sailors could use some sort of "buffs".

And I completely disagree with any argument that claims that the current system isn't creative and has no variety, because there is. Making it harder to get 900SD will just hurt new players even more, and mean that end game, people will still run just Engineers and repairers, unless it was made IMPOSSIBLE to get 900SD with Engies and Repairers; Which would completely ruin people's existing crews.

Removing caps would make it so that whoever had the most $$$ would win. Caps are there for a reason; Some are good and at the right level, some aren't and need adjusting. Stacking Penalties could be implemented, but should only be implemented on sailors that cause a setup to be overpGowered when one class is used En-Masse; With the current game setup, I don't really see that.

And sure, you can boost the effectiveness of Seaman; but caps would need to be there to prevent it giving more of a boost than it should, as it already gives a boost anyway.

But I have already said all of this, and assume you will rage in some way in the reply while not listening.

You seem to be under the impression that I am a troll simply here to ruin your game.

Well the fact is that I love NF and I would hate to see it shut down. To prevent that, changes need to be implemented in order to bring in new players.

As to your point about seamen having use, okay they have uses, but the advantages are not worth replacing another member of the support team. This makes it useless for 99% of the playerbase.

I play *** and the same principle applies here. There are a few units which the community has termed as useless simply because the costs outweight the benefits. These units are definitely do have uses and have unique abilities, but their high costs make it hard to justify their use when another type of unit would allow for a better defense or offense. Their best use is in gimmick builds where you catch the enemy by surprise. This is similar to NF. Seamen have uses but they are extremely limited and limit the options a player has if it is used.
IMO to make them not so overpowered they ought to be split into various professions, such as Gunnery seaman (+ACC and +REL), Support seaman (+ENG, +RES, +REP), Potential (No name that sounds right but it would be used for subs or maybe APA's), and Pilot seamen (+AIR, +FTR, +BOM). This way they're not jacks of all trades that do everything. That's what makes them so delicate to balance now. I'd kind of see it as a more generic sailors with multiple roles without doing everything, while other supports would be more specialized.

I already see the point made about caps.

The changes might cause an upheaval in the short term but I'm confident that SDE could work out a solution, such as a free restorer if certain requirements are met. This would definitely help in the long term.

***edit by cambsguy to remove game name***

Why don't you make a suggestion for Seaman changes? To be honest, a seaman should raise the cap slightly as well as boosting sailors. That would mean there would be a definate advantage to them.

I still disagree regarding restore, as that would hurt lower level players even more. Maybe it could be an idea to make SD gain non linear; So it is harder to get to 900 SD from 800SD than it is to get from 700 to 800.

don't fix what's not broken