Today I played against you as an opponent CV on the same flank, we won.
I'm a bad CV player and havent played for half a year. Those guys in the screenshots, they are right, you are terrible. It's you, really.

i just start play cv a bit after +/- 5 year of bb playing only, i got only 100 game max in my cv and im already piss off the the players comment .

No team play at all, no calling of target, all you hear is scout!!!! im blind. And most of the time i can see the ennemy bb in my cv but why my bb cant? The time you take to type your bulshit, are second your lose to find the ennemy,if you cant kill nothing just shut up and play .

and keep in mind most of the game you lose are not bb faill or cv faill, IST A TEAM FAILL like all bb north when bb6 on alpha south, all the cv notrh leaving the bb6 south alone.........

Although being camped when in a pure bomber whore can be quite painful, it does not mean that the cv being camped is useless. Consider the following 2 scenarios:

1. I am fighter camped by a PCV with ebve fighters. To help my team out, I move as far away from our BB line as possible so that the fighters have to choose to either give sigt to the team or camp me. If they decide to camp me, great cuz then they wouldn't be able to see our bbs. If they scout, then I can launch bombers.

2. I am fighter camped by a Yorktown with t2 fighters. I send out my bombers and drag-shoot them all down :DDDDD

Problem officers? Bomber Whoring all the way!!

Hmm I win alot in my Zuikaku BW...fighters are op and do not require any skills because they automatically aim at all the planes that they pass. Fwing is basically a way to show others you have more vets, which essentially means more $$ than other players. BWing on the other hand require careful calculations and predictions and does not rely on the amount of prem items used to change the outcome of the battle.

Bomber Whoring all the way!!

The difference is, good CVs can do both, it's called rationalizing the situation which that alone is too much for scout only CVs. You will get ripped apart from the most zealous FWs around as you'd know that it only takes one group of well controlled fighters even with T2 to shut a BW down when it's fighter camped. Note that a mid-high tier FW and above can usually pump out 6 squads of fighters in the current playing field, they can always disperse around where they are needed and it easily doesn't take a full focus of fighters of that tier to shut down a BW, I'd imagine V2 tearing you to pieces if you played in the Nebraska server with that kind of logic. =/

Despite breaking your bubble, this doesn't mean that I don't advocate BWing but it has to be justified enough to impact a difference to the team. Even so, it's seriously not hard to counter a decent BW since their intentions are usually obvious based on situational awareness (sinking the enemy CV, etc). Unless you can pull off extreme tactics and control of your bombers (magic circle, not COD btw), you will not survive, period.

That is on the assumption that the FW CV is a good robot. You're actually assuming that the CV driver can do EVERYTHING, cover EVERYTHING, scout EVERYTHING at the same time. I respect V2, but even he is a human. Time and time will come that there'll be a huge gaping hole that BWs can exploit.

And yes, i believe eufo can do the magic circle. And as for me, I do the TB juke bombing.

I hate to break your bubble again but FWing especially with T4s is arguably the easiest and most lag forgiving gameplay in NF (not going to even mention subs since the sub fanatics will probably start a ****storm about it). As for V2, he's superhuman in my books from the countless times I've played with and against as a bomber heavy CV so I can undoubtedly presume that he can do almost everything you've mentioned given with what I've said above (also note that he's the fleetmaster of a casual fleet that I'm with as well). The number of times he's lost from the typical BBs that are not willing to pull their own weight is eclipsed by the fact that he guarantees wins with the BBs that know their role and do it correctly.

With T2 and above fighters, you can avoid anyone. This means you can always avoid disadvantageous situations and focus on what's critical every passing minute of the game without succumbing to oblivious outcomes. For that reason, it makes BWing that much harder to succeed with competent FWs.

As for the magic circle, I forgot to mention that it has its limits. A good FW CV can easily improvise the direction and angle to strike such as cornering the bombers from advancing, anticipating the triangulation of the bombers into layering their fighters on top of them from counter-dragging, having one group of fighters to attack the opposite direction of the magic circle, and allowing one group of fighters to remain in the COD and having the other to snipe the bombers at an optimal direction. You can only do so much until the FW reads your intentions like an open book. Have you ever considered reading V2's guide of such a puny trap? Might want to check it out if you haven't because any kind of bull**** scenario you can think of from BWing, I've probably been there and done it.


Once again, I wouldn't over-patronize BWing because of its suggestive limits based on a higher skill base and its leading outcomes. Asides from trolling of course, I can obviously see that others may think it's equally viable compared to FWing but this is usually from of the fact that they haven't faced enough competent CVs to tell otherwise. If you're going against CVs that don't care what happens to their team, then by all means. If not, consider yourself defeated in all aspects.



In terms the OP, he happens to have a 62% win ratio of total games played. If he's that terrible as many have suggested, he's either:

1. Ranting a boiling water discovery.
2. Disconnects his loses and decides to whinge for some attention.

Either case, he has just shot himself in the foot for labeling himself to the public. If you're willing to learn from mistakes, you would've easily not make such a thread which is repetitively troll bait in the NF forums. Consider playing a CV3 and below if you want to play your CV casually because playing a higher tier CV comes with greater responsibility, it's not about how many planes you shoot down or how much attack you have dealt in your CV, it's about whether if your team is winning/losing because of you.

One, please refrain from posting massive walls of texts, It's actually annoying to read your entire post because it's horribly long, while you were simply beating around the bush.

Two, even if he is (or you are), indeed, a good FW CV, he is (or you are) still human. Time and time will come that there would be a massive gaping hole that BWs can exploit.

The BWs have the advantage of the "pressure game" wherein the FW has to be constantly be alert about the waves - such that the moment that one BW wave passes through, one of his teammates will DIE.

The problem is, the FW has to constantly monitor everything, while the BW just has to look for holes on the defenses and exploit it. Which do you think is more easier?