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  • War Plan Red

    10. 04. 2011 13:54


Sindher
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red


Ultimately the US would have lost because your navy sucks and Canada would have risen up.

Discuss.

 

  • Re : War Plan Red

    10. 11. 2011 19:01


Danilov
Would I, as Prime Minster of England, trust Hitler on my flank?

Giving that this scenario is taking place before Hitler took power this question is redunant.

*IF* this was to take place while Hitler was in power, yes i would trust my flank to him. Hitler considered Britain part of the Aryan Master Race and idolized our political system and the houses of parliament.

And regardless of whether you are a 20 year military vet or not. Your facts & figures are still largely wrong. You quoted ship numbers at the end of the 2nd World War.

We are talking about something taking place with Britain at the height of its Imperial Glory.

  • Re : War Plan Red

    10. 12. 2011 09:55


Lionel2
Originally Posted by Falcon91

You ignored my point....you actually talked about partisians form my understanding they are REBELS not militia.

You also forget this during WW1 when the Germans/axis heard the canadians were coming they braced. The canadian corp was one of the most feared and respected brand of troops on the battlefield we always have been.


Come on Falcon, I didn't ignore your point. Do you know who makes up partisians? Stragglers from overrun units, militia, retired soldiers, so on.

  • Re : War Plan Red

    10. 12. 2011 10:04


Lionel2
Originally Posted by Danilov

Would I, as Prime Minster of England, trust Hitler on my flank?

Giving that this scenario is taking place before Hitler took power this question is redunant.

*IF* this was to take place while Hitler was in power, yes i would trust my flank to him. Hitler considered Britain part of the Aryan Master Race and idolized our political system and the houses of parliament.

And regardless of whether you are a 20 year military vet or not. Your facts & figures are still largely wrong. You quoted ship numbers at the end of the 2nd World War.

We are talking about something taking place with Britain at the height of its Imperial Glory.


After this reply, I'm done talking here as there is no point. Hitler used temporary alliances with countries to divide his enemies and destroy them. Don't forget that he accused his own generals of failures of offenses that occured because of his own misguided orders and ordered shootings of his own civilians for outlandish and trivial things. Not exactly trustworthy.

LOL @ the facts and figures. I quoted them to demonstrate the difference in manufacturing capability during the war. I don't mean to demean the UK in any way, but they were not even close to being at their greatest peak. That ended with WWI. You should read Vulnerability of Empire, where Kramer does a great job disccussing the end of France's and UK's empires.

As a matter of fact, previous to WWI, the UK had a two navy standard, where there navy was able to defeat any TWO of the next great fleets. They were never able to achieve that again, and as I've been pointing out in other replies, UK was a proponent of the ship building holidays and London naval treaty as they knew the only way to maintain superiority was by halting Japan and US construction plans.

I'm not coming back to this thread as you keep taking things out of context or you are talking off the top of your head. You don't believe me? Go read and learn on your own.

  • Re : War Plan Red

    10. 12. 2011 12:27


reem
Sorry Lionel, but you go by the assumption of it being a strictly USA Vs British Empire War.

Answer me this simple question. Would Continental Europe want an American presence in Europe?

Outright war with the British Empire was the last thing Hitler wanted. He saw the British (English) as a fellow white/Christian germanic heritage race and greatly admired our success around the world. He really wanted an alliance with us not an enemy.

  • Re : War Plan Red

    10. 12. 2011 12:57


PrathikNS
"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
- Albert Einstein

  • Re : War Plan Red

    10. 13. 2011 08:54


farazelleth
Originally Posted by PrathikNS

"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
- Albert Einstein


The only problem being WW2 had not occured yet and you can bet your bottom dollar the UK would not have given the initial research to the Americans to start the Manhatten Project nor any other technology (sonar, radar, assuming the UK had even researched this come 1930 etc) the UK granted the Americans in WW2.

Fara

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