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  • BB4 RM

    03. 21. 2012 12:05


cloudmom

Italian bb4 is too small, please check this bb if not please give me a frigate to the damage and scope of a mountain so I like to play. That size is inappropriate for the game and desvalancea all.

 

  • Re : BB4 RM

    03. 22. 2012 06:21


cloudmom

thx for your consideration  richardphat

  • Re : BB4 RM

    03. 22. 2012 08:08


Zultra

Originally Posted by tappo01

Originally Posted by Zultra

Stop complaining, the ships are fine.

Learn to aim then you can sink them quite easily if you know what you are doing.

BTW: you will moan when they nerf the italians, so just leave them as they are, saying that fix there AA it's pathetic.


^ RM BB4 player.



Actually I don't even own a BB1, just from my observations of GB battles, just because you don't get a blockshot 100% of the time doesn't mean the ship is too small.

I think they will ruin the italian fleet, they are supposed to have a reload advantage, I don't see that anywhere, there guns have been weakened.

The Italian fleet is the only reason I play. 

  • Re : BB4 RM

    03. 22. 2012 13:34


replika30

Originally Posted by Zultra

Originally Posted by tappo01

Originally Posted by Zultra

Stop complaining, the ships are fine.

Learn to aim then you can sink them quite easily if you know what you are doing.

BTW: you will moan when they nerf the italians, so just leave them as they are, saying that fix there AA it's pathetic.


^ RM BB4 player.



Actually I don't even own a BB1, just from my observations of GB battles, just because you don't get a blockshot 100% of the time doesn't mean the ship is too small.

I think they will ruin the italian fleet, they are supposed to have a reload advantage, I don't see that anywhere, there guns have been weakened.

The Italian fleet is the only reason I play. 



So you only play becaue there is an OP unbalanced nation available?

  • Re : BB4 RM

    03. 22. 2012 16:30


Zultra

Originally Posted by replika30

Originally Posted by Zultra

Originally Posted by tappo01

Originally Posted by Zultra

Stop complaining, the ships are fine.

Learn to aim then you can sink them quite easily if you know what you are doing.

BTW: you will moan when they nerf the italians, so just leave them as they are, saying that fix there AA it's pathetic.


^ RM BB4 player.



Actually I don't even own a BB1, just from my observations of GB battles, just because you don't get a blockshot 100% of the time doesn't mean the ship is too small.

I think they will ruin the italian fleet, they are supposed to have a reload advantage, I don't see that anywhere, there guns have been weakened.

The Italian fleet is the only reason I play. 



So you only play becaue there is an OP unbalanced nation available?



No, the concept of small BB's with a fast reload speed was the reason I stayed, you make the ships bigger and the reloader slower you ruin the italians.

  • Re : BB4 RM

    03. 22. 2012 23:54


tappo01

Originally Posted by Zultra


The Italian fleet is the only reason I play. 


I would rather drop a player and have a balanced nation.

  • Re : BB4 RM

    03. 23. 2012 07:58


Hansaharry

Originally Posted by richardphat

The italian BB4 is overpowered and has been scheduled a mega nerf.

Note, the word mega nerf and not the slight nerf from next week patch.




Exactly what I expect….it will get nerved down till it´s unplayable.

 

People complain about that ship, but why?

 

Its size is too small, i agree with that. Also the damage reduce was okay, but that’s petty much fixed now.

 

But out of my experience most people complaining about the RM BB4 are those who react wrong on it. Fact is, a good salvo out of any BB4 or BB5 and of course BB6 cripples it, you are lucky if you can retreat, most likely it means your dead. You have less range then most BB4s, so you have to rush if you want to hit them. Most BB4s are as Fast as it or even faster, if they simply run away (as KM players are used to) the easily outrange it. Its not the fault of the ship that the enemy thays in line mostly ignoring or missing it, even if its small. It was the same with the Paris when it came out (and the other MN lower BBs, ppl. simply ignored them, or didn´t recognized that a BB is closing in...until its to late.

 

It’s a fact, when i rush the enemy and they hit me, i am dead. When they don´t hit me but run away I can´t get them also. But in most cases ppl. prefer to shoot on bigger targets first and ignore me, then I am in range and they finally realize the danger but aren´t used to their lower angles…so they miss and I kill them. Afterwards they complain it´s overpowered. Simple answer is: Learn to aim and learn about your enemy.   You have to accept that it is a BB4, even if its size is small. And believe me, its not so easy as it seems to aim proper with those 25 degree guns, its much.

 

My personal comparison about the RM BB4:

 

Pro:

-very small hitbox

-good speed (usual for BB4)

-good damage

 

Con:

-quite weak

-average/low range

  • Re : BB4 RM

    03. 23. 2012 10:21


replika30

[QUOTE=Hansaharry]

Originally Posted by richardphat

The italian BB4 is overpowered and has been scheduled a mega nerf.

Note, the word mega nerf and not the slight nerf from next week patch.




Exactly what I expect….it will get nerved down till it´s unplayable.

 

People complain about that ship, but why?

 

Its size is too small, i agree with that. Also the damage reduce was okay, but that’s petty much fixed now.

 

But out of my experience most people complaining about the RM BB4 are those who react wrong on it. Fact is, a good salvo out of any BB4 or BB5 and of course BB6 cripples it, you are lucky if you can retreat, most likely it means your dead. You have less range then most BB4s, so you have to rush if you want to hit them. Most BB4s are as Fast as it or even faster, if they simply run away (as KM players are used to) the easily outrange it. Its not the fault of the ship that the enemy thays in line mostly ignoring or missing it, even if its small. It was the same with the Paris when it came out (and the other MN lower BBs, ppl. simply ignored them, or didn´t recognized that a BB is closing in...until its to late.

 

It’s a fact, when i rush the enemy and they hit me, i am dead. When they don´t hit me but run away I can´t get them also. But in most cases ppl. prefer to shoot on bigger targets first and ignore me, then I am in range and they finally realize the danger but aren´t used to their lower angles…so they miss and I kill them. Afterwards they complain it´s overpowered. Simple answer is: Learn to aim and learn about your enemy.   You have to accept that it is a BB4, even if its size is small. And believe me, its not so easy as it seems to aim proper with those 25 degree guns, its much.

 

My personal comparison about the RM BB4:

 

Pro:

-very small hitbox

-good speed (usual for BB4)

  • Re : BB4 RM

    03. 23. 2012 11:06


Hansaharry

sorry for the font, didnt raelized it (was copy pasting out of word.

 

What i mean: With those 25 degrees  1 degree  makes a huge diference, also i noticed the shells jump quite much. I have most BBs in that game, in my eyes 30 degrees are the easiest angles to aim. But i guess everyone thinks different in that.

  • Re : BB4 RM

    03. 23. 2012 11:20


NIborGER

RM bb4 has another issue coming form its low angle. with at lvl crew range is pretty much bismarck-L1 like while with high lvl crew as on test server the range is pretty much Iowa like.

  • Re : BB4 RM

    03. 23. 2012 15:20


Hansaharry

tested it a few hours befor: Pretty much L1 range, but because of the bad spread the shells jump a lot.

 

Actually this is a disadvantage too, but anyway.

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