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  • BB4 RM

    03. 21. 2012 12:05


cloudmom

Italian bb4 is too small, please check this bb if not please give me a frigate to the damage and scope of a mountain so I like to play. That size is inappropriate for the game and desvalancea all.

 

  • Re : BB4 RM

    05. 18. 2012 22:31


GrieferLord

SDE at it's best i guess, the want to troll the NF populace with RM not surprised hopefully we can balance it but with how slow patching is it's doubtful anyway some lol's to pass the time.

Making a Ship OP does not balance out something thats underpowered period.  The italian bb4 has no reason to be as strong as it is and the bb5 is only as poor as it is because we had such a short period of time to try and fix the ships before they released them thus what we have now.

Besides you think the STOCK RM bb4 is bad? Wait until the rental is around!  Should not be much longer since they seem to be finishing the harbor's for declaring upon on the test server so it will only be a short while longer before they appear on the live server.

 

  • Re : BB4 RM

    05. 21. 2012 04:01


Bergy1972

i must say, i am up to BB5 Level now, and the BB4 seems alot stronger then the BB5.

It deals more damage and can take more hits then the BB5, even though it has smaller Hitpoints and Caliber.

Can we expect that the BB5 gets buffed a little bit, while the BB4 gets nerfed?

Just curious, just seems as if it makes no real sense to play BB5, i even seem to be getting more Xp in the BB4 , on similar Game outcomes, meaning about same attack on a win, BB5 gets less XP.

In the BB4 i get easily 40-50k xp , but in the BB5 i hardly even get 40k, although not playing long enough to be 100% sure about this statement.

  • Re : BB4 RM

    05. 21. 2012 12:10


GrieferLord

The bb5 was ment to be better than the bb4 however due to only having 1 month to fix an entire nations issues RM was released as it is, they did a nerf to damage but the damage was not the issue.

The issue is a combination of size, hitbox, firepower, range, and angle, i just assume SDE does not really care one way or the other about if it's fixed or not.

 

@bergy:

To Answer your question though yes the bb5 should be better than the bb4 for exp and such however like i said it's currently not the case.  We are trying to fix things but it will take some time.

  • Re : BB4 RM

    05. 22. 2012 22:11


Nihonjin

Originally Posted by Zultra

Stop complaining, the ships are fine.

Learn to aim then you can sink them quite easily if you know what you are doing.

BTW: you will moan when they nerf the italians, so just leave them as they are, saying that fix there AA it's pathetic.



HAHAHAHAHA  this guy is so funny. FIX THEIR AA?? are you kidding me? Obviously you need to take your head outta something.

Not only are these ships small and powerful but they are like frign ALIEN ARMORED TANKS.

Soooo happy this nation is getting nerfed. I absoultely hate it. Has ruined the balance of the game...for now at least.

  • Re : BB4 RM

    05. 23. 2012 17:18


KingCong

Originally Posted by GrieferLord

AW stuff...

You can squeeze out a bit more disp with 2 trips and a dual, same 8 barrels but you can add some belt , bulk, and bulge as well.

  • Re : BB4 RM

    05. 29. 2012 14:35


catsandcradl

Lol, the guy who posted those pictures has 800+ million credits. 

Tell us, how on did you get so many credits? 

  • Re : BB4 RM

    05. 30. 2012 06:43


KinGWaR

Originally Posted by catsandcradl

Lol, the guy who posted those pictures has 800+ million credits. 

Tell us, how on did you get so many credits? 



Test server -.-

  • Re : BB4 RM

    05. 30. 2012 06:45


danita

Those are test server screenshots.
Unless idiots put 800+m into fleetbanks all test server accounts have that kind of credits ( and points).

  • Re : BB4 RM

    06. 04. 2012 22:22


visero

I'll just say , its a rediculous ship to go against , way to many advantages and having a little spread is not a disadvantage when you can fire at a faster rate. Also your firing many shells , against a rushing L2 whos firing 6 shells , he has no chance against the angles a RM bb4 can produce and the number of shells. Not to mention the size , this ship is very very small , seems even smaller than the AD by a little bit. In fact thats what I thought I was fighting till it landed half its shell on me at a very low angle from a very long range , I was out ranged by like 2 inches maybe even three. Its a very fast ship as well , and it flew in under my angles everytime i shot and weaved. 

   The guy playing the ship once the battle was over had over 300 k attack , which was over half of his entire sides attack. Granted he was a good player but in any other ship , he would be killable without much difficulty but putting that ship in the hands of a good ( other nation ) player is insanely overpowered. Its needs a huge nerfbat.

  • Re : BB4 RM

    06. 05. 2012 09:10


outsider4

I'm really sorry to say this, but who thinks the other nations BB4s have a chance against a RM BB4 in a direct one-on-one is simply out of reality.

I'm currently driving a Lion 1, unarmoured, 900 SD, crappy 41knt overheat. I love playing Linebattles against H's or Lion 2s. The spread is great - not always blockshoting but close to it.

But if I see a RM BB4 and I'm being scouted, you see me running. Its simply worthless efford to take on that ship alone.

1) it outranges me be far.

Example, we were both going from North to South like this \

I shot at max angle, missed him by an half inch 'cause shells land to short. He shot same time and hitted me by at least his half salvo.

Which leads to

2) increadible firepower

Agreed, there lots of facts play in. For example, my ship is twice as big and hard to miss so if he doesn't aim like 3 degrees too far he will hit me with at least his half salvo which kinda blow up my SD for sure.

Compared to that even with my pretty tight spread it is hard to lead more than 4 shells into his ship even when he is NOT EVADING.

Thats thrid

3) Evading time

When I see an enemy firing at me, for example Iowa, its pretty easy to at least evade in a way so he probably won't hit me with 9/9 because I have 4.5 seconds time to react (-1s because I'm from europe and my ping is beyond 800 :P)

When I fire at max range he has about 3 - 3.5 seconds to react, which is insanely much for a ship in CL size with a speed better than mine and an really impressive turning force.

For me, no chance. From shoot to impact I have 2 seconds maximum to evade which is impossible for 2 reasons:

- I cannot evade by coming closer because the low-altitude shells will hit anyway by a chance of 90% because I simply cannot get far away enough.

- I hardly can evade by getting further away because I'd have tu turn away AND turn in again to increase the distance. Otherwise my ships fat butt would been hit anyway which has pretty much the same effect like I wouldn't evade at all.

4) Close combat

Forget it. Even if I land all my salvos at right angle I need 3-4-5 good hits to take him down (See point 2). But he can set his gun angle to 5~8 and doesn't need to adjust anymore because he'd hit me anyway because of that low altitude and my huge ship.

~~~ Summary ~~~

I'd rather fight a Victoria than a RM BB4. The BB5 of the RM is - as far as I can see - better balanced compared to its tier fellows.

I don't deny the idea of the low angled guns and compact sized ships. As some people before me said, its something new, but as people have to realize, its something currently just not fitting in this games balance.

If I had to make a suggestion: Size is ok, Angle is ok but make it just a bit slower, a bit less range (like L1) and reduce its firepower way more. It twoshots anything without even hit with all shells and if it does, pretty much everything is a oneshot - which - and people be honest - is ridiculous for 12,6" shells.

Thats my opinion, thanks for listening.

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