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  • New Ship line: The ASW ships

    02. 01. 2010 09:49

Will107

Now, the French Nation. Actually, yes I can see more people joining and returning for the
French nation, thats obvious. I mean, this is a BIG deal, its been a request for many many
years to have more nations then the first 4. So I can see people returning to play the French.

SS4's. This is NOT a reason for people to return, and I am saying this as an SS driver,
not just a whiner. SS's have some serious unaddressed problems in game. Lack of ASW ships
just add to this. Its not like we don't have the weapons to sink subs, we do with Depth
charges and Hedgehogs, but no one plays them because we cannot fit big fat high level
sailors on DD's, the displacement is simply too low.

Rather then adding SS4's and pissing people off more, create yet another shipline
dedicated to ASW DE's and DD's, and maybe even a CL or two.

Start of at Level 12-30 with several corvettes. 30-50 with DE's (Destroyer Escorts). Level
50-75 with DD's. Level 75-120 with CL's

Yes, this seems like a WEIRD shiptree. but let me explain in more detail. These ships will
not simply be the regular DD's we have now. They will be special.

They will have depth charge racks mounted on the stern, corvettes will have a single gun
mount on the bow. Giving you the option to either mount a gun, or a hedgehog. Two depth
charge racks on the stern. using the remodel feature, you can add space to the gun mount,
and eventually add a stern gun (while still keeping depth charges on the rear). There will
be two stern depth charge racks, each one operated by 1 sailor, so two sailors total to
operate depth charges.

DE's, or destroyer escorts. These were small ships build during WWII that were built to
escort convoy's and hunt and KILL subs. They typically had a very light armorment, depth
charges, and hedgehogs.

DE's should be fitted with two stern depth charge racks (both operated by a single sailor)
and a total of 2 depth charge launchers, one on each side. these new weapons launch depth
charges about 50-100 feet to either side of the ship, and will be operated by the second
sailor used on depth charges on Corvettes. They will have a total of 3-4 guns, 2 on the
bow, one stern. These could double for hedgehogs. Remodels will increase the guns space,
allowing larger guns and/or more ammo

DD's (reinvented, or RDD's for short). These would be more heavily armored. But they pose
a slight problem, how to arange the armorment? I propose two depth charge racks on the
stern, and a total of 4 launchers on the sides, combined, that accounts for two sailors. A
total of 4 Gun slots will be offered, which can fit dual guns, (DP Guns) of about a 5"
caliber. These slots will double for Hedgehogs.

CL's (reinvented, or RCL's). These will be the ultimate baddass ASW ship. They will mount
a total of 2 depth charge racks on the stern, and 6 (yes 6) launchers on the side,
operated by a single sailor. The second sailor will be on the bow, and manning 2 hedgehog
launchers (one on each side of the ship). They will have 4+ gun mounts, mounting guns up
to dual 6" or greater. remodels of these ships will increase the number of guns, the
number of depth charge launchers on the stern, add a third depth charge rack in the middle
of the stern, and increase space for hedgehogs.

After a player reaches level 120, he will be able to choose between the BB6 or the CV6
(having dedicated all his time to killing subs, its only logical that he can choose)

These ships will add yet another line to NF, all the ships should be generic, and the tree
can be the same for all nations (with the only difference being guns), and once and for
all bring balance to subs. The only reason subs are NOT balanced in NF is because there is
no one hunting them. BBs carry hedgehogs, but that makes the BB's vulnerable to carriers.
Dedicated ASW ships is the only way to balance subs. EXP and credit gain should be fair.
And Displacement should be larger to fit heavy crews. This is why no one runs ASW ships,
because when the crews level up, they get heavier, and eventually cannot fit on DD's and
CL's anymore.
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  • Re : New Ship line: The ASW ships

    04. 11. 2011 14:57

Falcon91
it get's old js that's all.

  • Re : New Ship line: The ASW ships

    04. 10. 2011 07:11

js23
wow some people just cant sit back and enjoy a little joke :/

  • Re : New Ship line: The ASW ships

    04. 10. 2011 05:49

Taniano
Maybe high lvl DD remodels?
For USN - lvl 50 Somers_ASW and lvl 70 DDX_ASW (or Super_DDX) - better Sonar, more
speed, better turning force, more displacement. For KM - Z31 remod to Z53 and Z99 to
Z99s etc...

  • Re : New Ship line: The ASW ships

    04. 10. 2011 01:18

cpt99117733
Ignoring the fights..may I sugest a parshel slolution? [Idea is still a work in progress]
Make a new nation with a reduced shipline [for now?] specilizing in asw [maby with better
landing ships to make it more intresting?] somthing like covettes DE's DD's CL's than
onto speclized Cv's dezined for asw [TB's Straffing DCing etc..] The nation would be
Canada, 3rd largist Navy by ship numbers by the end of the war most of wich were used for
asw on convoies in the adlantic.

  • Re : New Ship line: The ASW ships

    04. 09. 2011 23:40

iron_mask


js apparently has enough free time to troll threads .. but not enough to do a google
search .. i like how he swiped the graphic i searched and posted and then he re-
posted it here.. just to give himself something to troll with ... lol ... sad ..

/fail effort there .. tsk ..

  • Re : New Ship line: The ASW ships

    04. 09. 2011 22:21

Falcon91
js bugger off with the bullcrap it's a good suggestion and if it can be discussed
technically it's not a necro at that point.

  • Re : New Ship line: The ASW ships

    04. 09. 2011 20:52

js23

Nuff said...................................................................................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • Re : New Ship line: The ASW ships

    04. 09. 2011 19:20

Falcon91
Actually this is a smart use of the search function but anyways.

I like this idea gives me something to do when i get bored of the bb5 and i usually do ASW
but without a prem account it's not worth doing anymore.

  • Re : New Ship line: The ASW ships

    04. 09. 2011 16:22

iron_mask


i do asw .. and lots of it ...

what i would like to see is a special new neutral DD ...

model it on the mogador or leningrad DD hulls ...
typical number of crew slots and gun mount sizes etc ...
available at lvl 61 ... and usable by any BO of any nation ...
but with the WEIGHT REDUCTION coding like on a submarine ...
so the crew weight is reduced but everything else stays the same ...
lets you use your level 61-120 gunners torpers sonarman and all that ...




  • Re : New Ship line: The ASW ships

    04. 09. 2011 14:10

Lionel2
Since we've already necroed this thing, really the only complaint that I have is tonnage.
Plenty of diff ships work great for killing the SS. The problem is that your sailors get
too big to get on them. How about just creating a higher level FF/DD/CL in either an event
or a ship line that carriers more weight. No extra support slots, keep the gun slots the
same size so they aren't carrying 18" guns or 10 HH launchers or anything stupid. Just a
little bigger so I can fit my sonar and maybe and engineer on there?
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