Play SS before to wrote.

Play at chinese hours and you ll see (8am-18pm european hours). Rooms with 8-12 DD, some CL, FF and a lot of BB and CV with escorts and HH. Included DD with escort.

Is unreal use the same numbers of torps to sunk and APA bulged than a BB?.

Where are you read SS are underpowered? Limited torps, low armour, short torp range vs HH range, low speed (39-40knts on surface, -30knots underwater).

The only one maybe is overpowered is with the air, the rest is underpowered vs BB with HH premium and escort, speeds like Bourgogne 49knts, large overhead like UP-41 B 42knts or multiple slots than Charlemagne.

Submarines was, maybe, overpowered when was the capacity to equipe +10%torps, +10%damage and +10% air items. But well in this time does nt exist PSS or SS6

 

 

1 BB7
2 BB6.5
7 BB6 (6 at lvl 125, 1 lvl 123)

4 CV6 (3 Full fighters and 1 mixed) 4 lvl 125

7 SS6 (125,125,125,125,124MN,122UK,107 IJN) and waiting CN SS at lvl92.

Yes,  I play ss normally, i m not so skilled BB player (always has been problems with choose correct degrees), but also like this I know the problems who has BB's in GB, completely blind due Bomber/Torpedowhore, being the ss who brings some light because your scout is dead due AA escorts. 

Submarine can be most easy & independent ship but does not means is an egoist player. Maybe ll be different if the BB's try to sunk DD or escort on range before shooting BB out of range or, CV try to torp DD or escort before BB.
There are someone who trie but in general SS don t receive any help of BB's or Cv's.
Can you understand after sunk enemies SS & DD, you found BB's or CV's with unreal ASW rule and tons of HH premium dominate the underwater war?.
I see you often with BB, sometimes with CV and I think you has also SS. And you know the rules of every ship and what do be do in any moment and I would think you play for a team, make the best and win, like a lot of us (included).

Some reason in something, about fighters.

Respect Charlemagne, maybe the overpowered are some BB's, in bulge, speed and shoot.
BB5 can be armoured and don t loose speed. SS6 0.2 bulge only.
BB5 is big ship. SS is little ship and also like this you receive fullshoot and when iarrives dammed is sunk with fullshoot (i don t know this facility to choose correct degrees on some players when he was at 45º).
And underwater is also easy with HH premium or shooting in gradual until we end the air going with escort.
PSS overpowered? Yes, he has more torps than ss6.
Maybe the SS6 is overpowered, but when was the SS5 with 10% more air, 10% more torps or 10% more damge you say the same, he was overpowered.

As you can see I have always tried to be respectful of people.
When I started this thread, I never mentioned whether an ss was under or overpowered, but I wanted to highlight the indiscriminate use of HH by ships that were in no way designed for anti-submarine combat.
Who entered the under / overpower discussion was joker1974, eschewing the unrealistic ASW role used by BB and CV, open a debate already discussed many years ago when the ss5 came out.
Continuing it later soccermaniac.
I can respect the opinion of others and in some cases I can even share it and understand it, however, what if I don’t let it happen is that someone insults me the way you happily did.
The first thing you should do is read and instruct yourself a bit.
While the stats / ranking leave you as a simple learner, I save you from qualifying like this because I don’t know if you’re a multi-account player or a player who has started again.
Today (04/12/2020), I do not know if you have any BO left in the HQ, to me yes, the situation is this:
Overall Ranking: Doomsday420 1668 / Iowabb61eu 54
Level Rankings: D 3562 / I 1122
Sunk Tonnage: D144kk / I 824KK (5.7)
Win / Battles: D 6941/12121 - I 23379/42731 (3.5) D 57% - I 54%
FF sunk: D 106 / I 496 (4.6)
DD sunk: D 1477 / I 3609 (2.4)
CL sunk: D 1613 / I 4490 (3.86)
CA sunk: D 751 / i 2360 (3.14)
CV sunk: D 789 / I 3590 (4.55)
BB sunk: D 2065 / I 12913 (6.25)

SS sunk: D 200 / I 7983 (39.91).

I started this game about 2006, more seriously in 2008 and always with the same account and, to be called a noob or supremacist I don’t let that happen.
I’ve gone through 3 servers, burned every stage on every ship and no one will ever be able to say I haven’t been a team player, giving light with my CV or SS, throwing and sharing smokes, or throwing myself forward with the ss when the enemy made a rush.
Many players and from many different nations have thanked me for the work done for a common good with a thank you or a gg, many of them hope that the cast stays on their team knowing that I always try to give my best for the team .
I stick with those who through private have given me the reason for this post and who really understand my position.
I stay with those who are open to discussing it without disrespect.
To those who do not want to see or understand it and who use offensive language I wish them to be happy with their supine imbecility.

Como puede ver, siempre he tratado de ser respetuoso con las personas.
Cuando comencé este hilo, nunca mencioné si un SS era under o overpowered, pero quería resaltar el uso indiscriminado de HH por barcos, que de ninguna manera, estaban diseñados para el combate antisubmarino.
Quien entró en la discusión de under / overpower fue joker1974, evitando el papel ASW poco realista utilizado por BB y CV, y abrió un debate que ya se discutió hace muchos años cuando salió el ss5.
Continuándolo más tarde soccermaniac.
Puedo respetar la opinión de los demás y en algunos casos hasta puedo compartirla y entenderla, sin embargo, lo que si no dejo que suceda es que alguien me insulta como tú lo hiciste felizmente.
Lo primero que debes hacer es leer e instruirte un poco.
Si bien las estadísticas / clasificación te dejan como un simple aprendiz, evito  calificarte así porque no sé si eres un jugador de múltiples cuentas o un jugador que ha comenzado de nuevo.
Hoy (12/04/2020), no sé si te queda algún BO en HQ, a mí sí, la situación es la siguiente:
Clasificación general: Doomsday420 1668 / Iowabb61eu 54
Clasificaciones de nivel: D 3562 / I 1122
Tonelaje hundido: D144kk / I 824KK (5.7)
Ganar / Batallas: D 6941/12121 - I 23379/42731 (3.5)
FF hundido: D 106 / I 496 (4.6)
DD hundido: D 1477 / I 3609 (2.4)
CL hundido: D 1613 / I 4490 (3.86)
CA hundido: D 751 / i 2360 (3.14)
CV hundido: D 789 / I 3590 (4.55)
BB hundido: D 2065 / I 12913 (6.25)
SS hundido: D 200 / I 7983 (39,91).

Te invito a verlo en la próxima actualización, donde los números cambiarán sustancialmente (los submarinos se hundieron alrededor de 10500). O_O
Aumenta la dificultad, aumentan mis ratios vs las tuyas.
Comencé este juego alrededor de 2006, más seriamente en 2008 y siempre con la misma cuenta y, para que me llamen novato o supremacista, no dejo que eso suceda.
Pasé por 3 servidores, quemé todas las etapas de cada barco y nadie podrá nunca decir que no he sido un jugador de equipo, dando luz con mi CV o SS, tirando y compartiendo cigarrillos, o lanzándome hacia adelante con la ss cuando el enemigo rushea.
Muchos jugadores y de muchas naciones diferentes me han agradecido el trabajo realizado por un bien común con un gracias o un gg, muchos de ellos esperan que salga en su equipo sabiendo que siempre trato de dar lo mejor de mí por el equipo.
Me quedo con aquellos que a través de privados me han dado la razón de este post y que realmente entienden mi posición.
Me quedo con aquellos que están abiertos a discutirlo sin faltar al respeto.
A aquellos que no quieren verlo ni entenderlo y que usan un lenguaje ofensivo les deseo que estén contentos con su imbecilidad supina.