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  • TKing Friendly Planes

    09. 07. 2011 20:51

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klython
you want CVs to enjoy the game but until now you do not do anything about AA ships TKing friendly planes

 

  • Re : TKing Friendly Planes

    09. 08. 2011 08:20


Invinciblor
It's a lot easier to accidentally TK friendly planes than friendly ships. It's also less frustrating to have your planes shot down than to have your boat sunk. Plane TKs are far less of an issue than ship TKs, so any penalty should be much less severe.

Add to that the fact that players on one's own team (not just CVs, mind you) tangle their planes up with enemy planes without being able to take them down (neglected BB scouts, anyone?). Then the choice becomes letting them continue to have sight of your BBs, or risk a TK to shoot down their planes.

There's several scenarios when TKing a friendly plane or three is justified, albeit unfortunate.



On the other hand, if someone is intentionally TKing your planes as a griefing tactic, that should be corrected. I don't see this happening very often (TBH I'm not sure I've ever seen it), but how can it be addressed without penalizing those AA players that have their team's best interests in mind? It's the same type of deal as crossing or humping friendly ships with intent to grief. Those aren't penalized, nor should they be if the software can't differentiate between accidents and intentional incidents.

Perhaps we could take a page from first-person shooters and issue warnings for the first several friendly shoot-downs, and then the player gets punished after shooting down the next one.

(Edited for clarity)

  • Re : TKing Friendly Planes

    09. 08. 2011 08:28


Rick5000
They TK by accident, like Crossing.

If there are 3 of your FP's and 15 of the enemy's, and all of those got shot down.
Who cares? you only lost 3 out of .....

IT IS 3/4 TIMES BY ACCIDENT

Nobody would play if the XP would get penaltized if people (accidently) TK a plane.

  • Re : TKing Friendly Planes

    09. 08. 2011 08:41


Sonlirain
Actually killing friendly aircraft sometimes gives experts.
So shooting friendlies is always worth it.

  • Re : TKing Friendly Planes

    09. 08. 2011 09:02


RedNemo
Easy way to solve that: printscreen of ship TKing planes, warn for report (i personally used to warn for manul torp bombing) load a couple of Tbombers, warn a second time (screen for each). I myself sunked a couple of those players, they reported me and they were given 2 days ban (this was last year)
Most important: screenshots, and yeah a couple of torp or dive bombers and obviously a real intention from the AA to ruin the game:
not stopping when told and kill even necessary flight (fight fighter cover, or scout missions)

  • Re : TKing Friendly Planes

    09. 08. 2011 09:35


Invinciblor
Originally Posted by Sonlirain

Actually killing friendly aircraft sometimes gives experts.
So shooting friendlies is always worth it.


That...

that needs to be fixed then.

  • Re : TKing Friendly Planes

    09. 09. 2011 08:09


B_Duck
don't fight over friendly ships. Problem solved.

  • Re : TKing Friendly Planes

    09. 17. 2011 03:48


WVDrummer
Originally Posted by B_Duck

don't fight over friendly ships. Problem solved.


YES!
If I am blasting away at enemy planes and someone decides to bring in their fighters so that they can take the credits out of greed don't whine to me about your lost planes! Send them to the other side and fighter cap their CVs.

Sheesh!

  • Re : TKing Friendly Planes

    09. 17. 2011 14:46


OttoReinhold
Originally Posted by B_Duck

don't fight over friendly ships. Problem solved.

This. AA's job is to fight enemy planes above their own line. If you send your fighters there it's your own fault. Send them to enemy and be amused by their CVs crying about it with the added bonus of giving your BBs sight.

Not rec'ed.

  • Re : TKing Friendly Planes

    09. 17. 2011 17:15


Lionel2
Originally Posted by Invinciblor

It's also less frustrating to have your planes shot down than to have your boat sunk. Plane TKs are far less of an issue than ship TKs, so any penalty should be much less severe.



I disagree. I get my xp and my credits from my planes just like BBs get them from their ships. When they get shot down it means that I have to start refueling all over again and I lose production.

Originally Posted by Invinciblor

Add to that the fact that players on one's own team (not just CVs, mind you) tangle their planes up with enemy planes without being able to take them down (neglected BB scouts, anyone?). Then the choice becomes letting them continue to have sight of your BBs, or risk a TK to shoot down their planes.

There's several scenarios when TKing a friendly plane or three is justified, albeit unfortunate.




I disagree again. If my planes get pulled into the enemy planes and are shooting them down, then why bother them? If my bombers get tangled why not give them a few seconds for me to drag them away. I do admit that it makes more sense for the AA to kill enemy planes on the friendly side of the border but it hardly is worth the trade off, as my planes will now not make it to the other side and due to lazy BBs, the AA ships have now blacked out our side as well. Don't forget that CVs have limited numbers of planes. AA ships killing them means less used later to support their team. The only possible situation where TKing a friendly plane is justified is when a large flight of bombers has a friendly ship targeted. Thats it.



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  • Re : TKing Friendly Planes

    09. 17. 2011 17:38


LILITALY5179
Originally Posted by JimmyEAC

If you want a non severe policy... just subtract the amount of credits you would get if it was a enemy plane for each shot down plane. It helps AA to be more careful while not harming it to much.


Then you get into the problem I have with the exp penalty for TKing ships.. what if you are already firing and someone happens to drag their planes across your AA.. its mostly their fault for going through your AA.. just like if youre already firing and someone crosses you, its their fault for turning in front of your guns, but you get penalzied for it

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