And you are totally going off-logic.


Even your suggestion are illogic. Its not about making BB12 BC, its about renaming some BC, and throwing them as if they were another class, rather than BB working more on their speed and a bit less on firepower.

If you don't see any hood around, its because the BB34AA patch kinda fucked it up. Its fat, not so fast, slow on the turn, range isn't that awesome and firepower either. Basically its a poor bismarck to which people prefer the Nelson.

Its still a BB3, and ought to be balanced with other BB3s.

You totally overlooked the argument I brought about gneis. How would you balance that thing as being an inferior BB while it currently wipes the floor with its class? (BB2)

First, they aren't battleships, they are battlecruisers. Its an important point that you shouldn't forget. Second, I'm not throwing them into another class, what I'm proposing is that we allow a few extra spaces for new players so they don't get discouraged with the game and quit.

LOL balancing BB3s. Do you really think that one extra BC3 in a fleet will make a difference???? How long have you played this game? I didn't overlook any argument, you just don't seem to get that I don't agree with you. A BB3 or BC3 is not a difference maker in a game, period.

If this was some sort of great blitz idea where it was only playing other BB2s and BB3s then yes, it would matter. In practicality, you could stack one team with a Hood, Alaska, and Kongo and give the other team nothing and it really wouldn't matter much. A BB5/6 can one shot some of them. LOL even a CV can kill them with a single payload as if they were a cruiser. After all, isn't that really what battle cruisers are? Big cruisers?

Its funny how you talk about them like auto balance works so well in the first place. I would think that a player with your experience would know how little a BB1 or BB2 means in a GB. Perhaps you should rethink your priorities. They should be:

1)Keeping people that are long term players in the game
2)Keeping new people that joined the game in it
3)Getting new people to join.

Without keeping this in mind, the game that we care about (otherwise we wouldn't be arguing in the first place) dies.

This idea doesn't hurt any long time player. I would think that a BB driver with a high level crew would have more self respect then to come in here an complain that we give a noob in Alaska the oppertunity to level a little faster. Like it would hurt you. I'd be embarrassed if I was driving a Monty and I claimed that a couple Kongos were unbalancing the game lol.

What this idea does do is keep people from getting out of blitz, into GB and saying screw it and quitting. I see that as a win for everyone.

Oh, and while I am being illogical, I'd like to point out that you need to go back and look at your history. In RL when BCs were used as BBs they got hammered and a couple thousand people killed. Kinda like what happens in NF. You can't throw BCs around like BBs, it don't work.

As far as NF goes they are BBs in class and playstyle. Being called battlecruiser or battleship has no effect on the way the ship is balanced, other than a tendency to be easier to speedcap, and a playstyle based on hit and running. And not always, as the MN BC line prove. (Bretagne, Courbet, Lyon and Normandie) prove.

Neither does many of the BC show a vulnerability to fire more than their counterpart being classed as BBs.

In RL, the battlecruiser was a fast ship, with BB armament that was specialized in intercepting and crushing smaller vessel, such as merchants, and avoided actual BBs that were better armored, true. But this isn't RL but NF.







First : you are now actually saying that we shouldn't balance BB3s, because since they do not have the impact on a battle the way a BB5/6 does it doesnt matter? I won't bother answering to that one, because its way too illogic to be argued.

Every ship of a same level in a game must have similar capacities. Up to the player to use them well, and yes they do make a difference used well.

For your questions about how long I've played this game, answer's 4 years, specialized on BBs. I trust the pedigree is up to your convenience?

And you do get what I mean! A "BC3" and a BB3 are not different, and therefore shouldnt be balanced differently. Hood as far as any official regulation is concerned is classed as BB3. Guam, is a BB1 and goes head to head with any other BB1. BC Gneisenau is a BB2 going head to head (and mostly murdering) with any other BB2.

They are rightfully balanced that way, and to propose anything else would be quite bothersome to rebalance, for no result, other than one heck of a nerf for Hood, Gneis and such, since by your point of view, "BB1" (revenge, nevada) should crush them. Which is the illogism here.

If you were starting on the point that ACTUALLY "BC" are inferior and need their own class, then learn to play your ships, as they are well balanced, safe as I already stated, the hood who I find is a faded down bismarck, with a Union Jack stamp.









Good luck overcoming a gneis or a Lyon with a CA.











Now I'm a player with experience? Nice, strange I wasn't 3 lines ago.

And I also know how much pain a well driven BB1 or BB2 can inflict in GBs as well.

As far as the priorities goes :

1) Is failing hard as long term player are pushed away by the skill average plunging in the last 2-3 years
2) Due to being fed with easy modes till BB1, new people when coming in contact with the long term player get absolutely murdered, with their HHE using Auto-FCS BB1-2, that goes into a straight line middle map.
3)Sadly not my job. SDE need to promote their game better, sure, but I don't see what I can do to have the game make itself better known.














You are a funny guy. I never said the whole game would be unbalanced, as Kongos would rape monties or something. I said you would upset class balance. The fact a BB1 fight other BB1,(regardless of their name being BattleCruiser.Guam or BattleShip.Nevada) and have similar capabilities. The fact a level 69 ships should beat a level 57 one as far as its possibilities goes.

It would actually make the game less fun to level through the mid-stage when leveling new crews, as suddenly you'd get a "BC", some thing that cannot go head to head with "BB" in GBs, forced into a new mode where CVs will enjoy bomberwhoring mode for 20 extra levels.











Yes, so rather than that, they get their BB4 with a skill requirement discount, then get murdered by any BB3 user with half a brain, and THEN ragequit. Refer to number 1 about why long term player are leaving the game?

If we keep that logic, we'll end up with separate game mode for nearly all tiers, with BB6 in GBs. How the heck did you progress as a player that way? Spoon feeding people rather than giving them the tools to improve isn't the solution imo.












NF =/= RL. This argument has been deemed invalid for years, yet people keep using it when they get desesperate. If you want to argue otherwise, please find me a 40 knot sub and a BB that blocked at max range in real life.

So yes, in a gaming reference, your arguments are indeed based on no solid facts, and confront many hard work over the year by dedicated individual to balance the class within themselves. They also sometimes contradict each other.