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  • Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 03. 2012 14:55

Recommend : 2

Ramzil9Tails
A long time ago, but not beyond memory, the rules allowed for room hosts to ban players who
were making the game unfair for others.

Since that time, it seems the rules have changed and now hosts and players must put up with a
lot of junk.

I propose a complete overhaul of the rules as they are today, that make it possible for
rooms to be horribly unbalanced, for players to cause problems for others by pushing a host to
go before a proper balance (Spamming "GO!" and other variants of said), and to have a clash
of definitions between the moderators (whom, as far as I can tell, are simply players in very good
standing with TNF).

The In-Game Rules should also be updated to match any changes, and should follow the proper
form of language to that used by the server (Example: The Americas Server should use
Business/Legal English as it is the global business standard. European Servers should use the EU
Official Language, and so on.)

That is not to say all players must only speak that language, but that the standard is that which
should be used to denote the rules. (In keeping with such that Legal Contracts such as EULA
must by law use the legal language of the area.)

If it truly is such that hosts may not for any reason ban a player, then the feature which gives a host
power to do so should be locked in the way that the directional arrow feature has been locked.

A simple solution for this that allows for the Loader Contingency (a player fails to load thus preventing
the room from starting) is to insert a code that at its simplest would read:

IF
Player_X_Load = FALSE AND Room_Locked = TRUE
THEN
Auto_Ban_Unloaded_Player = TRUE

(You may Adjust to fit language, syntax, and so forth.)

I personally think that the majority of problems stem from poor communication;  (It is bad when players
are spamming go before it is even possible, IE 10 in a blitz room when 16 is the minimum and 24 is
optimum for EXP, or when two separate moderators judge an offense to differing degrees IE A Team Kill
being a ban to one mod or ignored by another.)

Further more, It is clear that not everyone utilizes the forums for information, and many are not even
aware of changes to rules, events, or other effects that are mentioned both on the forum and in the
Patch notes on the Navy Field Updater. (Example blatantly proven in this latest coin event where many
were not even aware until players begged them to check the forums and see why they wanted to wait
till 5 minutes before the final shells were fired.)

It should be made clear with everyone that the rules are one way; radical changes need heavy publication,
and even slight adjustments should elicit an inescapable notice of some form. IE Pop up message in game
or mass forum message.

If rules are there to make the game fair, then the rules should be fair themselves, and while rules may be
subject to change, that should not mean that they change without proper warning.

 

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 03. 2012 15:32


Lionel2
I'll recc this tomorrow. I agree that "go" spam should = ban

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 03. 2012 23:30


Alsinor
I whole heartily agree. Recommended.

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 05. 2012 10:57


BarracudaSp
Already gave a rec before I saw this thread but i really really like the idea of enforcing the rule that a player must be able speak English to play on NFNA. That rule already exists, or it did when I started playing 7 years ago, anyway but--
>>>>>>>It's just not enforced.<<<<<<<<<<<<
I'm not racist...my real point is that it's hard to tell an NF teammate "watch out you're about to get hit by x" when they're like "jajjjjjjjajajjajjaj no ingles zorry" or even just fail to understand a single word you say.


I'm all like,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY0o2FHh64Y
(jk of course)

No seriously, it's just hard to coordinate PERIOD in terms of not being able to communicate all your teammates. This happens all the time and I'm getting tired of it. Don't take this the wrong way, it's just that I've lost games solely based upon people who didn't understand my warnings and tips when I was spotting for the team (sometimes after I already died, too, lol). I also agree with your other terms and would love to add more to the discussion, but I don't have much more battery time on this laptop, and there's no power slots on the walls in this area of the school (haha fail, I know :P) so I'm going to have to hit the post button now.

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 05. 2012 12:54


SkSSoldier
but "go" spamming is what makes NF the game that it is and was

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 05. 2012 13:49


Tomm96
First of i have ban alot of GO players so usally only players some never have seen me before say go and then they'll get kickt from the room or ill screen and report them. (vick11 want me and all others players to screen this go players and report them, if you dont know he is the head of all servers)

TNF have said several years that if a player is loading after the room is closet the player got 8-10 seconds to load, if not you can ban them from the room and start.

That would be to complex codes to fullfill and to complex bindings to not get any major or minor bug.

You can report a TNF to the gms some is kinda hard to get over to youre side towards the moderators since they are in same team and they got the view like "we dosent do wrongs, you just dosent listen to us"

Every patch to the game is displayed in the auto update window, if they change a rule thats count as a patch and they write that out, but not every rule as specific how and why they change it.

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 05. 2012 19:33


Bart133
"ban players who were making the game unfair for others"?
Never oppose a suggestion that lets you ban subs. Ever.


I don't get why people care about players not speaking English. It's not like the American players communicate either.

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 05. 2012 21:29


V2CxBongRipz
Originally Posted by Bart133

"ban players who were making the game unfair for others"?
Never oppose a suggestion that lets you ban subs. Ever.


lol

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 05. 2012 21:31


ontherock
Originally Posted by BarracudaSp

Already gave a rec before I saw this thread but i really really like the idea of enforcing the rule that a player must be able speak English to play on NFNA. That rule already exists, or it did when I started playing 7 years ago, anyway but--
>>>>>>>It's just not enforced.<<<<<<<<<<<<
I'm not racist...my real point is that it's hard to tell an NF teammate "watch out you're about to get hit by x" when they're like "jajjjjjjjajajjajjaj no ingles zorry" or even just fail to understand a single word you say.



1. NA includes 3 countries, Canada, Mexico and America.
2. NA languages are English, French and Spanish plus some natives.
3. Therefore you should suggest changing server name to NF"US" first in order to restrict language to English.
4. Otherwise, it is nonsense to restrict languages to English, because it says NF"NA".
5. Your point obviously comes from racist view, which is boosted by ignorance.
Your rubbish talk is equal to this. "I can`t understand them, so wipe them out."

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 06. 2012 20:30


BarracudaSp
Originally Posted by ontherock

Originally Posted by BarracudaSp

Already gave a rec before I saw this thread but i really really like the idea of enforcing the rule that a player must be able speak English to play on NFNA. That rule already exists, or it did when I started playing 7 years ago, anyway but--
>>>>>>>It's just not enforced.<<<<<<<<<<<<
I'm not racist...my real point is that it's hard to tell an NF teammate "watch out you're about to get hit by x" when they're like "jajjjjjjjajajjajjaj no ingles zorry" or even just fail to understand a single word you say.

1. NA includes 3 countries, Canada, Mexico and America.
2. NA languages are English, French and Spanish plus some natives.
3. Therefore you should suggest changing server name to NF"US" first in order to restrict language to English.
4. Otherwise, it is nonsense to restrict languages to English, because it says NF"NA".
5. Your point obviously comes from racist view, which is boosted by ignorance.
Your rubbish talk is equal to this. "I can`t understand them, so wipe them out."

Um no dude I'm >>not racist<<. I hate racists btw. I just meant that it's impossible for many of us American NF gamers to communicate with players who don't speak English (in order to successfully coordinate team play) and theres no way i can help them to learn English either so the only other solution is...? GIVE THEM THEIR OWN SERVER (NFSA? idk)? Perhaps just do what NFEU did, a server for each language? IIRC they have one for German, English, French etc?
The Spanish speaking players will also benefit from this, as they won't have to try to figure out what people are saying that THEY don't understand either. Look at this fairly, and calling a non-racist a racist is just trying to make trouble. And I'm not ignorant. I've been playing a while and I know what the issues are. Learn to use a forum without harassing other users and calling names.
Side note: An old friend of mine was shot and killed by someone who he'd repeatedly trolled online in some other site I don't use. So this practise is much more dangerous than people realise! :-[ I don't want anyone to get hurt! It's also why I don't participate in negative trolling. (Your other points make sense, though, perhaps calling the game NFUS after said revisions wouldn't be such a bad idea.)

Originally Posted by Bart133

I don't get why people care about players not speaking English. It's not like the American players communicate either.

Oh come on, that's not funny. I communicate with the team and all that when playing, although it's easier to do when A) I'm dead or B) there's no danger that I'll get hit whilst I am typing. Although I'll admit I've typed while getting shot before. xP

  • Re : Rules for hosting rooms in the Battle Area

    01. 06. 2012 22:50


Bart133
People chatting in other languages isn't even on the list of things that bother me in game.
And if you made it an English-only server, what about the people stuck on the even less active servers for other languages?
What if some Mayan guy wants to play the game, do you just tell him to go away? If not, what server does he play on? No matter what server he chooses, most people won't speak his language. You're just going to lump him on the Spanish server, am I right?


And then when you do make the servers for Latin America, all you do is empty the NA servers some more and learn that for all the jajajjajaaj reporta, English speakers aren't any better.


Bad communication isn't a South American thing. The NA players are just failing to communicate in English. And every player ever knows how to say 'SS'.


I still support the suggestion, because anything to ban subs from shared exp rooms.

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