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  • Will there be an SS6?

    10. 14. 2011 22:32


GHHalley
Just curious -- we have CV6, BB6, and the SS5's seem to be underpowered for what we were expecting, will there be an SS6?
After all, it would be justice for the BB players who always whine about the power of subs and are gloating over the new change.  (^;
I would like somewhere to continue building my sub BO to.  If not SS6, would it make sense to merge the SS lines into the BB or CV lines?

 

  • Re : Will there be an SS6?

    10. 14. 2011 22:36


richardphat
You mean big contrast effect when the SS3,4 is horribly OP then when SDE stop spoofeeding you guys with OP stuff?

  • Re : Will there be an SS6?

    10. 14. 2011 22:36


Challen76
The lines are set and we are supposed to have SS6 but I highly doubt the powers that be will let us go from SS ---> BB/CV and vice versa

Understandably the SS5 are underpowered for their tier and level... It's too bad testing management didn't address this from the beginning.

  • Re : Will there be an SS6?

    10. 14. 2011 22:38


Challen76
Originally Posted by richardphat

You mean big contrast effect when the SS3,4 is horribly OP then when SDE stop spoofeeding you guys with OP stuff?

right... like subs havent endured enough nerfs already

EDIT: Phat - You really need to work on your english - we have a big barrier when it comes to communicating.

  • Re : Will there be an SS6?

    10. 14. 2011 22:44


Challen76
Originally Posted by richardphat

You mean big contrast effect when the SS3,4 is horribly OP then when SDE stop spoofeeding you guys with OP stuff?

You talk like you are neutral when it comes to balancing but it's clear you have an agenda just like your mentor.

  • Re : Will there be an SS6?

    10. 14. 2011 22:46


richardphat
Originally Posted by Challen76

Originally Posted by richardphat

You mean big contrast effect when the SS3,4 is horribly OP then when SDE stop spoofeeding you guys with OP stuff?

right... like subs havent endured enough nerfs already

EDIT: Phat - You really need to work on your english - we have a big barrier when it comes to communicating.



Name me a real nerf SDE did and not just broken stuff.

  • Re : Will there be an SS6?

    10. 14. 2011 22:49


richardphat
Not to be a jerk challen you know I am an AA player, I know you well. You know me well.

If neutral brings you sophist interpretation then that's your problem not mine.

Remember how you fail and accuse me of being bias of PHH player and want to keep them, when I clearly state in PHH thread that they need to be nerf?

  • Re : Will there be an SS6?

    10. 14. 2011 23:05


masc24
Originally Posted by richardphat

Not to be a jerk challen you know I am an AA player, I know you well. You know me well.

If neutral brings you sophist interpretation then that's your problem not mine.

Remember how you fail and accuse me of being bias of PHH player and want to keep them, when I clearly state in PHH thread that they need to be nerf?


dont know if you realize, but you are being trolled.

  • Re : Will there be an SS6?

    10. 14. 2011 23:16


Challen76
Originally Posted by masc24

Originally Posted by richardphat

Not to be a jerk challen you know I am an AA player, I know you well. You know me well.

If neutral brings you sophist interpretation then that's your problem not mine.

Remember how you fail and accuse me of being bias of PHH player and want to keep them, when I clearly state in PHH thread that they need to be nerf?


dont know if you realize, but you are being trolled.

Masc - You should really try adding something to the conversation next time.

Oh and Phat - You want info? Check it from your old friend Mumito from the old forums.

*********************Mumito said:
08.08.07:
- SS1 implemented
08.09.11:
- When retreating, the submarines are not able to change the Dive status.
- Submarines are not able to sail during Critical Dive.
08.09.18:
- SS dive mode speed decreased.
08.09.24:
- SS2 implemented.
08.10.09:
- DC range underwater increased (decreased on the surface).
- DC explosion time reduced from 6 to 4 seconds.
09.01.08:
- FF's/DD's detect submerged subs without sonarman.
- CV's are able to use sonarman.
09.01.14:
- Repair speed reduced to 30% when sub is submerged.
- Planesman is required to carry 90%+ sailors in order to work at all.
09.02.05:
- FF's (neutral ships) can use sonarmen (classed sailors).
09.02.11:
- SS3 implemented.
- DC damage increased.
09.02.25:
- SS speed limited to 40 knots.
09.03.05:
- SS are not able to use smoke during diving status.
09.05.28:
- Hedgehogs implemented.

There were some more nerfs that were not announced (or I missed the
announcements):
- Air refill time has been capped at 60 seconds.
- Sub torps dud rate has been increaed.
- Sonarman visibility range when submerged was decreased significantly (comparing
Adalbert's guide data with current range).

There are also some "natural" nerfes:
- Expert gain is nonexistant (gained 2 experts after 60 battles last 3 days, using
torpedoes and deck gun),
- Sub crew has "no future" and gains exp extremely low due to level difference
penalty (capped at about 8,5k for my crew now).
- Sub can only take part in Great Battles or sub wars, no Night Mode, Blitzkrieg,
Convoys.

  • Re : Will there be an SS6?

    10. 14. 2011 23:24


jimmjimm
Can any forum mods lock this? There are PLENTY of threads already regarding this =.=

  • Re : Will there be an SS6?

    10. 14. 2011 23:24


richardphat
Masc, I don't mind being troll.
I'll gladly go into his gameplay

And you call that real fixes?


Most of the stuff you list are crap seriously.

***
Calling a nerf when you can't move while critical dive?
Ha, best one?
****

***
SS dive mode speed decreased
***
Means nothing when you can still avoid from HH and DC


***
DC range underwater increased (decreased on the surface).
- DC explosion time reduced from 6 to 4 seconds.
***
Means s**t when you can still dive faster than DC even with fast detonation.
A useless nerf for a real sub player, might have an effect with someone who does not play sub well only.

Edit more to add:

***- FF's/DD's detect submerged subs without sonarman.
****
That was an utter f*****g retarded patch and not a real one. Here is a perfect example of broking one, making Sonar man on DD, FF practically useless

************

Repair speed reduced to 30% when sub is submerged.
- Planesman is required to carry 90%+ sailors in order to work at all.
09.02.05:
- FF's (neutral ships) can use sonarmen (classed sailors).
09.02.11:
- SS3 implemented.
- DC damage increased.
09.02.25:
- SS speed limited to 40 knots.
09.03.05:
- SS are not able to use smoke during diving status.
09.05.28:
- Hedgehogs implemented.
**********


You call planesman a nerf? Seriously, I should carry 10% of my total sailors on any ship. But then buff the rate twice time more efficient.

DC damage increased is just SDE amateur. Another example of broken fix.

SS speed limit is another SDE pathetic. Fast delivery and screw the other s**t.

SS using smoke while diving is more of an exploit. How can you call that nerf.

Hedgehog!!! YES. I'll just gladly use your own argument. Since we know how ASW is retarded and horribly balance.

Yes, I do put my own judgement since I know ASW is horribly broken.

********************

TLDR: All the stuff you list are not real nerf, but are just stupid fast fix with broken stuff.

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