Dramatically changing SN AA now when most players who worked at this are at BB5/6 is both short sighted and blinkered using the "national traits" argument.

If SN AA was as bad as you want from day 1, people would have levelled extra support in place of gunners, like they have done for US and UK.

To make two crew members on a SN BB effectively "dead weight" by nerfing the guns to UK level at this late stage would be crass and elitist of the relevant section of the balance team to say the least.

I trust that whatever BALANCE changes are made actually take into account how people have developed their crews because of the original ship and gun features presented by SDE. A reduction in some aspects of SN AA MAY be needed, but to put it down with RN and US AA just because at one time hinted it was a national trait will just cheese more people off in game.

I can just imagine this being implemented on day one then the trade section on day 2 will be :

"Want to trade 2 SN Elite Gunners, 105, BVE 140 Vets for any SN Repair or Engineers 90 +"

Imagine the next BB patch; all US reload guns loose AA ammo and only AA gunners can shoot down aircraft because they have made only the AA guns worth using even with gimped AA men. All because the US National Trait was good AA (and sight lines) so as we have now fixed the AA men, all Reload gunners will be made useless. The correct choice would be to have made the guns and crews that people already have usable, not to nerf them into obscurity, irrespective of National Traits.

I hope that a half baked patch (NOT the fault of the testing team) does not stay this way for another six months, but also that any changes in game reflect the decisions that people made with crew choice MANY months ago as well as theoretical BB vs BB play in the test environment. Lets face it, GB2 is 95% of all NF games, played by 95% of all active players. The days of great BB rooms went years ago. Especially as we know that the sight lines and ranges when playing pure BB rooms are different from those found in GB rooms (result of previous early ONF tests)

Dramatically changing SN AA now when most players who worked at this are at BB5/6 is both short sighted and blinkered using the "national traits" argument.

If SN AA was as bad as you want from day 1, people would have levelled extra support in place of gunners, like they have done for US and UK.

To make two crew members on a SN BB effectively "dead weight" by nerfing the guns to UK level at this late stage would be crass and elitist of the relevant section of the balance team to say the least.

I trust that whatever BALANCE changes are made actually take into account how people have developed their crews because of the original ship and gun features presented by SDE. A reduction in some aspects of SN AA MAY be needed, but to put it down with RN and US AA just because at one time hinted it was a national trait will just cheese more people off in game.

I can just imagine this being implemented on day one then the trade section on day 2 will be :

"Want to trade 2 SN Elite Gunners, 105, BVE 140 Vets for any SN Repair or Engineers 90 +"

Imagine the next BB patch; all US reload guns loose AA ammo and only AA gunners can shoot down aircraft because they have made only the AA guns worth using even with gimped AA men. All because the US National Trait was good AA (and sight lines) so as we have now fixed the AA men, all Reload gunners will be made useless. The correct choice would be to have made the guns and crews that people already have usable, not to nerf them into obscurity, irrespective of National Traits.

I hope that a half baked patch (NOT the fault of the testing team) does not stay this way for another six months, but also that any changes in game reflect the decisions that people made with crew choice MANY months ago, as well as largely ignoring the theoretical BB vs BB play in the test environment. Lets face it, GB2 is 95% of all NF games, played by 95% of all active players. The days of great BB rooms went years ago. Especially as we know that the sight lines and ranges when playing pure BB rooms are different from those found in GB rooms (result of previous early ONF tests)

From day one right it was released, I told and spam many threads that SN AA is meant to be useable as AA.

Further, we told that SN testing is not finished testing right it was released. If you guys just love taking advantage of unwanted, or just go because you didn't inform yourself.

Third, it isn't a argument that is in position, not to mention that SN does not have AA gunners, but having main guns using DP guns, that is much more better than USN A guns or UK A guns, which should not.

Current SN AA guns is more or less what SDE wants.

aww.....now SN BBs are epic fail D:
why nerfed? SN is already good and balanced as it should be
slower AA gunz...lower turnrate (exception of stalin)...lower displacement (yes my kirov now can't fit 60 bulge afther the patch and lower turnrate: 24 to 18, only makes it even worse)
this is not balance this is MADNESS )':

Im just quoting your statement in case somebody deleted your post.

SN AA is nothing special, I would say below average. Really painfull to use at lower level (until +-80)

aww.....now SN BBs are epic fail D:
why nerfed? SN is already good and balanced as it should be
slower AA gunz...lower turnrate (exception of stalin)...lower displacement (yes my kirov now can't fit 60 bulge afther the patch and lower turnrate: 24 to 18, only makes it even worse)
this is not balance this is MADNESS )':

Heh, would anyone believe me if I said I made up the idea that SN AA was supposed to be "usable"/Average?

When SN came out, most of SN's AA guns were not touched with the exception of gunspace. Current SN AA guns is more or less what SDE wants.