Your avatar is stunningly accurate.

I suppose you want Battleships submerging and Destroyers flying planes too?

Recommended...due to ship class consistency. IF BB and CV or CA can, why not SS.

As to whether I would remove my guns? I would not, unless I could net 3-5 more knots of speed. Probably unlikely, since Deck guns are pretty small anyway.

Personally, I would rather see ALL ships carry appropriate guns, instead of allowing 60-knot Moltke/Mandels to run hog-wild with PHH Cluster bombs, blasting everything in sight.

I can't understand why most submariners DO NOT use their deck guns??? I can't count how many smoking heaps have been polished off. Just last night, I obliterated two squadrons of US T4s with my AA U-Flak guns. Best AA guns available on ANY ship. Time after time, I have watched as helpless subs try to fend off some DD. If they just surfaced and spun their guns at them, that DD would be toast. But with a repairman instead...it's a losing setup.

Consistency gets my approval. Either all or none, not SS only.

What you have done is called "reduction to absurdity". This is a debating/arguing tactic people use when they run out of logical objections. They will draw parallels from the sane, reasonable proposal, and extend it to absurd lengths to make the original idea sound absurd. Like gay marriage opponents saying then it will be ok to marry a goldfish, or legalized marijuana opponents saying it will be ok to give crack cocaine to schoolkids.
Tell us, do YOU think thats what Ultra Dog was saying? Does it even make sense? No. To take a page from your own playbook , why don't you just go away if you intend to derail the discussion with ridiculous comments. And you obviously don't even understand what he said. He said if all others have it, then SS should too. ALL others. Not some. If all other ships but BB could dive, then they should be able to. If all other ships but BB could launch ftrs/bombers, then BB should too. But they don't. All other ships but SS can at least remove guns. Why can't SS?

Oh, and referring to his avatar as "stunningly accurate" is a pretty funny way to have a discussion. Do you routinely insult people whose ideas you don't like? Based on what I've seen from you here, not surprising.

Dude, you crack me up.

You didn't say any of those things. You attempted to make Dog's comment absurd by mentioning "DD fly planes" and "BB submerge" the only things you mentioned, and everyone CANNOT do these things. Lol, and why did you bother cut and pasting a section of a dictionary with a word that happens to contradict you in the first place? Cut and pasting Web make you look foolish enough. To bother responding to me at all and not be able to refute what I said in any way is even worse.

You should follow your own advice and bring something to the conversation.

I rec it, but the only valid reason not to, imho, is that it really belongs as part of the balancing discussion, since it will change in some way the play of these boats. Again, I'm in favor, but that is the only con I can think of. Any others are welcome to be mentioned.

Edit: I just reread our little exchange, and honestly, this is a video game forum, lt's try not to get too crazy, it just offends me when people come out and insult other people when they are making sense instead of making a valid argument. I pointed out one valid objection , what do you have?

Special guns mostly cannot be changed, due to the massive work it would need to prevent unwanted setups.

Ex. BB6s guns. You don't want them on BB5, and you dont want to see a 5xSY gunned amagi. There are therefore stuck to the BB6.

Dude, you crack me up.

All other classes have R AND T slots, why can't my tsukikei have T slots?
All other classes can carry torpedoes, why can't my carrier carry torpedoes?
All other BB's have front and back guns, why can't my Dunkerque have back guns?

Answer please or your argument is invalid.

Actually you make no sense. This isn't CommieField where every nation have the same ships, and every ships are the same so no one is jealous.

I agree the point of "they have it, so should we" is weak at best, but your way of going about it is just ridiculous and illogic.

Rather than just pointing out any special setup ship in the game, why don't you try to explain why such setup differs?