You are totally wrong. Experience NF a bit, its different nation, then try to comment on stuff like that. Its obvious WHY a single nation fleet would get crushed. And also why it never would be a truly nation fleet. How many lines have you got?

I got IJN KM USN and MN. Soooo I'm what, melting pot nation?

I'll try to ease the blow here.

First address the advantages of IJN.
-SY: Still has hang time above a UK angle, makes difficult to push/rush with (amagi suffers this greatly in HA assaults. While 42 knots, good armor penetration, and damage output, this ship can be kited, and rushed when lacking support
-Kitas: Long range torps do little damage if much at all with the amount of bulge in the game. BB killers can pack a serious punch however a kita that ventures far enough in range is typically sunk/crippled before making it. For those that do they likely have to focus on a single target to group them tight enough to make a difference.
-HEI: Sonar + HH, and a team environment. Give me a USN,MN,SN,UK,KM sub with a sonar playing defensive and you'll be spotted comming in (seen this in countless HA defenses 2 defending subs just scouting the incoming subs hit with HHs from CVs and BB6s.

Not wanting to discuss fleet leagues and HAs is a detriment to any fleet conversation. GBs are significantly different from fleet events and and frankly the fleets not involved in FL or HA are the ones that tend to fade away. This is not just a symptom of NF but other games as well.

I disagree with your last paragraph. Having six nations subs, an L2 and 2 US BBs does not carry much weight at all. I am not going to sit here an say you need 1 BB6 or a BB6 in every nation, however you have limited yourself to BB exposure in 2 nations. I would hardly say anyone in that position has a good understanding of the nation traits and advantages/disadvantages.

As a final thought let me explain something as best as I can.

In FL I am yet to ever seen a team field an entire single nation team. You have 1-2 AW L2s, you have a yammy or 2, Iowa and generally an h39 thrown in there. Each adjusted at the start to match up to the ship they're trying to counter. Moltkes are unbelieveable PCAs, however almost inevitable you add Pensas in as well. After the cv patch, you do tend to see more US cvs, however pre patch you saw a wide variety. In HA's you see HT's filled with Kaisers and nebbys, with other BB6's filling the spots where other Kaisers and nebbys are not available. In outer tiles you see QVs, Amagis and carrots.

Lets suppose that you have the 4 core nations having "fleets" of their own, with all equally skilled players.

IJN would get rickrolled by KM. KM fighter superiority would blow the IJN bomber one, IJN BBs dont have the linefighting abilities to hold a line vs them, KM subs are acing as far as anti-SS goes.

Then KM would get pwned by the UK fleet using a mix of AW and SW ships, slowly dragging them down, and winning mainly by slowly draining all ships from their AP.

UK fleet would THEN get probably kicked to the ground by IJN, that CAN hold the line vs UK ships, with good HE penetration.


If you allow USN their nebbies, its going to rickroll UK and IJN in its current form. IJN might score points SS wise. Any nations fighters gets nuked by the USN T4s.



Now in reality you have most KM players failing hard at keeping their range, SS running after BB ignoring each others, CVs allowing dogfights over their lines, SY running with torps and L2 running 3 gun AW (doesnt bounce much).

But i remains a fleet with every nation would still rape them.

Have KM hold the line, UK and MN ready to rush together, MN and IJN also covering the AA, and IJN taking over KM as lineholder if you need to be defensive. USN can be a jack-of-all-trade anywhere in that (safe AA maybe).

There is no way a single nation can fill all roles needed in a fleet war.

let's assume that if you joined a single nation fleet, it is because you believe this particular nation can be awesome, at least on some relevant aspects. so you would happily contribute your ships and crews of this nation
to the fleet effort.

freedom of choice would let you have other nation's ships and crews
and in your case, you could still find a way to use your KM sailor on an IJN ship

all awesomeness, no butt kicking.
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