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  • SN BB6 SPEED!!!!

    07. 25. 2011 02:26


bluesaint

 i sent my tickets down there.... Pointing out every BB6 speed and asking why SN BB6 has 35knt max speed. 
The answer was balance.

please explain me sn bb6 speed mx  35  how this balance? i'm sorry but not balance..... please fix it...


note: sn bb6 range = neby range same...

i have 4 bb6...


*Edited: Private Communication is not to be shown on the forums - Ny*

 

  • Re : SN BB6 SPEED!!!!

    07. 25. 2011 12:16


Senso
lol 80% of the ppl in here whining about the sn bb4 and 5 have heavily abused the IM before and now start crying...



BTT:

its not the last patch concerning the bb5 and 6 balance its just the beginnig and i think well get far better balance in the future it just needs time :)

  • Re : SN BB6 SPEED!!!!

    07. 25. 2011 12:34


angus725
Lukas, I don't know where you got average damage from.

Originally Posted by Mailman

For a first start, more will follow.

I have been discussing the soviets with the GM's. I asked them about the specific nation
traits, the advantages and disadvantages.

Advantages:

BB:
-Long naval gun range
-Good shell damage

Disadvantages:

BB:
-Slow shipspeed
-Very low manoeuvrability


Average damage does not balance SN when they are both out-ranged and slower than KM.

  • Re : SN BB6 SPEED!!!!

    07. 25. 2011 12:47


bluesaint
Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

Range isn't my problem with it. Its speed 35knts n 45 degree guns makes its range useless. QV would murder it easy with no armor on QV..dodge first shot and rush. For angles being so high it needs some kind of advantage.( what advantage does SN BB Give?) Kasier= range,Nebby=fire power/speed, amagi=fire power,penetration ability, UK=AW/SW, fire power. Charle= Speed/Fire power. SN=???



agree newyorkboy...

Nebraska speed max 39 , Amagi max speed 39 , Kaiser max speed 37 (best range) , Charlemagne max speed 42 (Last patch) , Sn Project 24 max speed 35 not balance... it must be 37... (sn)

  • Re : SN BB6 SPEED!!!!

    07. 25. 2011 12:56


Denfish
my sn bb6 goes 37 :D

  • Re : SN BB6 SPEED!!!!

    07. 25. 2011 12:56


COAESystems
It has Nebraska range with a good spread and fast reload. It's designed for line battles. I'm not sure if 37 would be too fast for it or not. It's far more balanced than the other russian BBs, apart from BB2 tier. It also has less hangtime than Amagi and cuts through armour. That's a lot of advantages. If it had a smaller hitbox it would be one of the best BB6.

  • Re : SN BB6 SPEED!!!!

    07. 25. 2011 12:59


heatrr
Originally Posted by bluesaint

Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

Range isn't my problem with it. Its speed 35knts n 45 degree guns makes its range useless. QV would murder it easy with no armor on QV..dodge first shot and rush. For angles being so high it needs some kind of advantage.( what advantage does SN BB Give?) Kasier= range,Nebby=fire power/speed, amagi=fire power,penetration ability, UK=AW/SW, fire power. Charle= Speed/Fire power. SN=???



agree newyorkboy...

Nebraska speed max 39 , Amagi max speed 39 , Kaiser max speed 37 (best range) , Charlemagne max speed 42 (Last patch) , Sn Project 24 max speed 35 not balance... it must be 37... (sn)



Have yet to see both of you making any comments or have your concerns addressed in this Test Discussion Forum thread.....

http://fm.en.kupaisky.com/Community/Forum/View.aspx?num=1212&searchtype=0&pagecount=0&searchvalue=&sort=5&category=C03&page1=1

  • Re : SN BB6 SPEED!!!!

    07. 25. 2011 13:00


heatrr
Originally Posted by COAESystems

It has Nebraska range with a good spread and fast reload. It's designed for line battles. I'm not sure if 37 would be too fast for it or not. It's far more balanced than the other russian BBs, apart from BB2 tier. It also has less hangtime than Amagi and cuts through armour. That's a lot of advantages. If it had a smaller hitbox it would be one of the best BB6.


Apparently, they want another hack boat to abuse to replace the hack boat IM they abused.....and lost to nerfing..../s

  • Re : SN BB6 SPEED!!!!

    07. 25. 2011 13:37


Gtdawg
I'd like to see the SN BB5 get its proper level 100 gun range.

Past that, I'd like to see far more battle testing before we start speeding things up. For the BB5, I'd be interested to see how 39 knots treated it...but I don't think it is a requirement.

As a matter of personal opinion, I think 35 is just too slow for a BB in today's game. Everything is running around speed capped and subs will eat the thing alive. But, if it can be shown the ship is otherwise balanced, I'd be willing to accept it.

  • Re : SN BB6 SPEED!!!!

    07. 25. 2011 13:58


ljsevern
Originally Posted by angus725

Lukas, I don't know where you got average damage from.

Originally Posted by Mailman

For a first start, more will follow.

I have been discussing the soviets with the GM's. I asked them about the specific nation
traits, the advantages and disadvantages.

Advantages:

BB:
-Long naval gun range
-Good shell damage

Disadvantages:

BB:
-Slow shipspeed
-Very low manoeuvrability


Average damage does not balance SN when they are both out-ranged and slower than KM.


I know you don't like KM Angus, but we don't want more IM's on the server. If you recall, the damage aspect was changed to average shell damage due to the high armour penetration and complaints from many players.

Futhermore, it will outdamage US anyway, so in fact while it will still be average per tier, it will actually be slightly above average.

  • Re : SN BB6 SPEED!!!!

    07. 25. 2011 14:02


Willg210
Originally Posted by COAESystems

It has Nebraska range with a good spread and fast reload. It's designed for line battles. I'm not sure if 37 would be too fast for it or not. It's far more balanced than the other russian BBs, apart from BB2 tier. It also has less hangtime than Amagi and cuts through armour. That's a lot of advantages. If it had a smaller hitbox it would be one of the best BB6.


Weird, mine has a really variable spread, sometimes it almost blockshots, but quite often it goes like this

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e197/willg21/NF1107251355370331.jpg?t=1311627728

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